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Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by shermanguy, Aug 21, 2005.

  1. shermanguy

    shermanguy Yellow Belt

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    What technique can you tell me to try (besides my present technique of squirming around while trying not to give up my back) to escape from mount? I am getting killed in sparring.

    So far, my mentor/coach just says "practice trying to not get mounted in the first place." Because when you get mounted, you deserve to get whupped.

    For you guys that play golf, Ben Hogan once walked past a younger player who was practicing bunker shots and told him to work more on not getting in the bunker in the first place....but I for one believe in practicing the bunker shots (and mount escapes) just in case.
     
  2. Big Red

    Big Red Green Belt

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    Its good practice not to be in a bad situation but its just as good practice to know what to do. Its a bit like knowing how to fight, its good to know how to fight, buts its just as good knowing how to not resolve to fighting. I dunno. But anyways, I like the "upa roll".

    Where you grab an opponents arm with the same arm on your body. E..g. If you want to grab their right arm, use your right arm to grab at their tricep.
    Then, hold tightly with your other arm, the same arm you just grabbed, tight against your chest, put one leg on the outside of their leg on the side of the arm you grabbed.
    Now bump, bridge their weight up your body & roll to the side where their arm is trapped.
     
  3. Big Red

    Big Red Green Belt

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    My description isn't great, but here are some cools pics & step by step instructions.

    Upa
    http://www.bjj.org/techniques/intheguard/escapemount1/

    Sliding out hips
    http://www.bjj.org/techniques/intheguard/escapemount2/

    Belt escape, gi only
    http://www.bjj.org/techniques/bjjfighter/gi/mount/belt-escape/

    I try to work on the hips more & the upa technique & have the belt escape as a last resort. I need to mobilize my hips better as it is & I personally feel the belt escape isn't a skillful technique. Still looks good though.
     
  4. wenispinkle

    wenispinkle Skankin' It Easy...

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    one thing that i found will work sometimes (not very often, especially after youve done it a few times) is to put your hands on their stomach, then bridge up explosively and push up on the stomach. your goal is to create enough room for you to put your butterfly guard in
     
  5. Upa to hip escape, hip escape to upa. Repeat as necessary. Get acquainted with what arm position your opponent has and trap them accordingly. Drill your hip escape movement always before you begin sparring, it makes more of a difference than you might think.
     
  6. Zankou

    Zankou Muscle and Hate Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    We just learned the elbow to half guard technique ... it works like a monster in conjunction with the upa. You use the upa and the elbow against his knee to get the guy up with his knee out and then slide your knee under his, your knee sliding flat against the floor, putting him in halfguard. Really love this move.
     
  7. guardpasser

    guardpasser Tudo Bem Bjj

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    start the mount escape before he gets there also
     
  8. I-Shoji

    I-Shoji Green Belt

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    1. First thing to do is make sure you don't have his feet UNDER your legs. Once you are laying on the ground, straighten, and lay sideways on one leg. Using your elbow push down on his knee (or just keep it in place) and force the straightened leg up under this knee. Once you clear it, quickle wrap it up for half-guard. Do it the same way on the other side. If he is mounted high on your chest and you cant use your elbows then you might have to buck or work a bit to get him down further on your hips.

    Remember that if you are going to bridge/post/upa or whatever you call it you should have him sitting on your hips down as far as possible, and bring your feet up close behind your ass so you have maximum leverage and make the most of your bucking.

    2. In conjunction with bridging the right way (he is low on your hips and you placed your feet nice and close to your ass) dive both hands under his ass as he comes up from the bucking, at the same time straighten out your legs so you can use them to pull yourself out from under him in conjunction with the underhooks you got under his ass. Practice this explosively and in one worm-like manouver.

    3. If he's high on your chest, you can bring your legs up and under his armpits. Even just one foot under an armpit will allow you to pull yourself out from under him. This is a cool crack-monkey move that works well for me (long legs). Someone tried doing it in last nights UFC but didn't get the legs up under and botched the escape.

    4. Upa. Shouldn't need an explanation.

    Between these you should have one that works. Remember that if you go for an upa and it fails you can use that space to work a leg up under his knees and get half-gaurd back too. You don't always HAVE to get the sweep. Try one technique to mask a second one.
     
  9. S.D.Force

    S.D.Force Blue Belt

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    I was going to mention the elbow or hand push of the knee to escape your leg under his and go for half guard as well. works really good for no gi and especially if you have a strong upper body it's hard to stop. It doesn't work though if the guy already has high mount.
     
  10. flyingknee16

    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    If the hip escapes and stuff don't work, I would just give up my back and when they go for the rear naked, just defend it easily and spin around.
     
  11. jpark4

    jpark4 Yellow Belt

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    for nogi take the back and defends, it's a lot harder to do thing no gi. for Gi, i like the upa as a set up then go for the hip escape, for vice versa.
    -Jon
     
  12. alexgncw

    alexgncw Guest

    thats stupid giving someone your back is the worst thing you can do in jitsu its much harder to escape from there then from a full mount .. if you're gonna give something up give them an arm bar and just try to throw off their leg from your head before its locked in and stand up i do this all the time actually and it does work but giving up your back is fatal against anyone with over 3 months training if they get their hooks in even if you spin around you'll prob end up right back in the mount thats after you waste all your energy defending the rnc and we else they throw at u
     
  13. flyingknee16

    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    Everyone I train with has more than 3 months training and teh only guy who can RNC is my brother who is getting ready to fight in GC and is really good in jiu jitsu.

    I agree it's not the smartest thing to do, but it works for me. And if you spin back around, you end up in their guard dude...
     
  14. Enron Exec.

    Enron Exec. Guest

    I do the belt escape with Gi. I thought I made that up I have never seen it documented haha I use it ownz
     
  15. Throatyogurt

    Throatyogurt Guest

    UPA and away!!!!
    elbow escape
    dont do that leg in the armpit trck, a guy with a good mount will just lean foward, trap your arm and have you in a high mount triangle. that only works with whitebelts.
    drill drill drill your hip- elbow escapes, getting someone off of you is one of the best tools to be good at in your bjj box
     
  16. flyingknee16

    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    I don't know, I guess for me because I am lanky and flexible (like Charuto), I never learned how to properly use my hips and such for escapes. I basically used my height and leverage and long legs and speed to push my opponents away and regain guard/escape from bad positions pretty easily.
     
  17. Mark Allen

    Mark Allen Enforcer

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    there are a bunch of BJJ escapes, check the web. Problem being, most of them will get you hammered in a real fight.
     
  18. Enron Exec.

    Enron Exec. Guest

    My favorite is with the GI where you put your foot in there belt and buck em off but you have to be semi flexible
     
  19. Jason Pair

    Jason Pair Amateur Fighter

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    Well, I don't see how practicing your golf technique is going to help your Ground Game..
     

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