Escape from straight ankle lock gone horribly wrong!

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  1. bjornvil

    bjornvil Blue Belt

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    We have a tournament here next weekend, and last night a few of the WB's in the gym were looking at escapes from the straight ankle lock. We don't do them much in our gym, but they are legal in the tournament so the guys wanted to look into escapes.

    Well... this one guy was improvising a bit on his own and tried to roll out of the lock and basically reverse heel hooked himself!

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    This looks pretty horrible, but after getting an x-ray and a morphine shot his knee was popped back into place. He came back to the gym last night with a slight limp and high as a kite of the morphine :) His knee wasn't even swollen. The doctor said there was no apparent damage to his knee. Lucky bastard!
     
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  2. Lutador011

    Lutador011 Blue Belt

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    Lucky SOB. That shit looks career ending nasty
     
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    Ugh, that just made me cringe.
     
  4. kodokan

    kodokan Purple Belt

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    nasty
     
  5. Butler

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    kinda dumb playing around with leg/ankle escapes IMO.
     
  6. An end for

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    Ankle locks, ankle locks... I'm still not even back to training. That move is the worst ever.
     
  7. DeathxxMetal

    DeathxxMetal Purple Belt

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    Fuuuuck....and he plans on competing in the tournament after this? How long do you guys have left to prepare for it?

    Also: Perhaps this is an indicator that he turned in the WRONG direction?
     
  8. Jaxx

    Jaxx Green Belt

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    On an ankle lock you dont spin in any direction. Someone has your foot, spinning either way will heel hook yourself.

    Another reason why leg locks and defence must be taught from day 1 IMHO.
     
  9. DeathxxMetal

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    I do my damnedest to avoid the situation altogether. I've already had my horrible experience with a heel hook so I will do anything to not give up my legs for subs, lol. And I get your point about training from day one, the gym I started at didn't even entertain the notion of starting us off training leg locks.
     
  10. bjornvil

    bjornvil Blue Belt

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    No, he won't compete, tournament is next Saturday.

    And yeah, you don't turn with a straight ankle lock. Turning = heel hook :icon_sad:
     
  11. SuperSuperRambo

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    Man that's ugly. IMO escaping leg locks is not something you "play around with". If you're learning an escape, practice the escape. If you're rolling and someone catches you, and you don't know the escape, just tap when it's on, don't try something funky. I've seen guys roll the wrong way to escape heel hooks. They didn't know the proper escape, but they had seen guys spin out on tv so they tried it. Bad idea.
     
  12. Jaxx

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    For BJJ guys i recommend Kesting's 'High Percentage Leglocks'. Even if you dont want to ever use them, you must know the defences.
     
  13. bjornvil

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    Yeah, they weren't rolling, they were basically just isolating technique, except they didn't really know the correct technique.
     
  14. KnuckleSangwich

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    If this was gag you lose....I lost....
     
  15. Respeezy

    Respeezy Purple Belt

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    Man i would probably faint if that happened to me.
     
  16. Alexcny

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    I always thought a lot of BJJ schools do their students a diservice by not teaching white belts leg lock defense. I completely understand rules to bar white belts from doing leg locks when they roll especially twisting ones. But I think they should still be taught basic defense.

    I did a tourney a few months ago. They allowed all submissions at the intermediate level. I was up a bunch on points in the no-gi semis and my opponent locked in a moderately tight heel hook. I had no idea what to do and really panicked having never been in that situation before. I tapped really quick when I probably still had a fair amount of room before I was at risk for sustaining damage.
     
  17. Lutador011

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    I fainted from the picture

    Ts how's the kid today?
     
  18. bjornvil

    bjornvil Blue Belt

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    He's doing OK I think, just doing the RICE thing. He's going to take it easy for a while and probably going to see a proper sports doctor who knows these kinds of injuries to make sure his knee isn't totally shot.
     
  19. thegreenblender

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    It's a terrible thing to be a white belt.
     
  20. unhommefou

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    Did someone edit the post, because I can not see any picture.
     

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