Equality: Help a Young Grappler Accomplish Her Dreams

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  1. MFridley

    MFridley Buckeye Fan Staff Member Senior Administrator

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    A friend of mine -- and a mainstay in the Philadelphia Brazilian jiu-jitsu community -- sent this my direction and I was moved to share it with the masses on Sherdog.

    Please consider taking a moment to help a young grappler accomplish her dreams. No money is needed or asked for, just a minute of your time and hopefully a signature to show that you support her cause and are willing to take a stand for equality in competition.

    https://www.change.org/petitions/let-girls-wrestle-equality-for-amanda-leve

    My name is Amanda. I
     
  2. bubkusjones

    bubkusjones Brown Belt

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    Signed. Though I think this could also be solved by not going to a Catholic School, but that's me.


    Best of luck to the girl and I'm sure whatever the result is, she'll find a way to compete.
     
  3. SHEWINS

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    signed, good luck.
     
  4. TheHereticJay

    TheHereticJay I scoff at your belt rankings

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    Signed and shared. Best of luck to her.
     
  5. EndlessCritic

    EndlessCritic Gold Belt

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    TheHereticJay I scoff at your belt rankings

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    Private Catholic school, I doubt they get federal funding for their sports.
     
  7. seatea

    seatea Black belt in Shotacon karate.

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    Signed, but I'm not sure that a Catholic school will give the slightest damn.
     
  8. SuperSuperRambo

    SuperSuperRambo Senior Moderator Senior Moderator

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    She's a talented grappler. There was a thread on her recently with her submitting a bunch of boys at Grapplers Quest.
     
  9. Jackson 2012

    Jackson 2012 Orange Belt

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    Signed.
    She should also try to get the facebook God to share it too.
     
  10. BJJ Beginner

    BJJ Beginner Green Belt

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    I'm sorry, but if you're going to go to a Catholic school you're going to have to abide by their rules, no matter how much you might not like them.

    Furthermore, "equality" would mean that guys could play on women's teams as well, something that very few people truly want.

    Face it: what you want is not equality, but special treatment and the ability to force a private organization to do what you want them to do.
     
  11. TheSubmissionCh

    TheSubmissionCh Green Belt

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    "Furthermore, 'equality' would mean that guys could play on women's teams as well, something that very few people truly want."

    You are an extremely stupid human being. Equality would mean no such thing, since there are already clubs comprised of men for most sports. Men are allowed on cheerleading squads. Men, of Caucasian race, have had an unheralded and unchallenged hegemony on power in this nation, and, it ends soon.

    I have witnessed many girls submit boys at GQ. Your preposterously childish premise would proclaim that it was "special treatment" to permit the girls to pay over one hundred dollars, USD, to compete against a boy, and furthermore it was discriminatory to the boys to not be able to demand the same.

    I demand that you self-castrate, so your stupidity ends here.

    Do not sign the goddamn petition if you do not wish to, but keep your far-fringe, Rush/Beck-inspired ignorance to yourself. Cheers. - E
     
  12. Kenny from MD

    Kenny from MD Less angry than before.

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    Well I'm sorry, but if Catholics are going to practice their religion in America, they're going to have to abide by our rules, not matter how much they might not like them.

    Furthermore, "equality" would mean that boys-only sports, of which wrestling is considered in this case, would become an inter mural sport, something that should be implemented even if only one person, or even if no people wanted it.

    Face it: you hold an oppressive attitude that is reinforcing a projected role onto this girl whether you are cognizant of this or not.
     
  13. HomerPlata

    HomerPlata Purple Belt

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    BOOOOOM! Not a single fuck was given during this post :icon_lol:
     
  14. BJJ Beginner

    BJJ Beginner Green Belt

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    You're absolutely right! In fact, I should be able to go to a vegan restaurant and get a steak, regardless of that restaurant's purpose or the personal beliefs of its owners. To hell with the rights of private business owners - I want to get my way, damnit!

    And I in no way have any problem at all with women competing against men. I simply have a problem with people demanding that a private organization violate its principles (no matter how ridiculous they might be) to satisfy the whims of others. And I find it hypocritical that women expect to be allowed to play on mens teams when it suits them, but a massive public outcry ensues whenever a boy has attempted to play on a womens team (which has happened on a couple occasions with sports like field hockey which do not have a mens team.) Hypocricy in general disgusts me, as do people whose definition of "equality" includes special treatment when it's in their favor.

    Furthermore I am far from "far-right" - if anything I'm closer to libertarian than anything else, though my beliefs don't exactly align with theirs either. That said I do find it telling that the liberal response in this thread was to immediately resort to personal attacks rather than making any constructive argument. Guess we know who's responsible for the lack of intelligent, rational discourse in this country.
     
  15. PoundSand

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  16. PoundSand

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    your analogy is crap. the archdiocese probably gets some form of federal financial assistance; if so, they would be bound by title ix. if you take money that comes with conditions, you can't complain when someone wants those conditions enforced.

    you need to read up on title ix on why that's not hypocritical.
     
  17. Kenny from MD

    Kenny from MD Less angry than before.

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    Can you honestly, in full credulity, equate that argument to this one? Accommodating a dietary preference versus a biological determination? Do you really believe this is about forcing a private institution to bend and sway to the whims of an entitled individual? You can not for one second be ethically serious as a human being.

    I don't care what you find hypocritical, and I will assume no one else in this thread does either. I would agree with you that it would be unethical to apply a double standard, such as the example you provided about a male joining a field hockey team, but unfortunately it has little to do with what this thread is about. Maybe this issue triggered your rant by being related, but trust me- no one cares.

    I'm not a liberal, and have no idea what you are talking about there, nor can I understand why you would even start that argument.

    Edit: Furthermore, what personal attack was in my original post that you are referencing?
    Double edit: Double furthermore, do you really expect civil discourse when you type things like "Face it: what you really want..." If you are going to be brash and expect a padded response, then maybe you ought to step outside of yourself to assess reality.
     
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  18. Jackson 2012

    Jackson 2012 Orange Belt

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    I'm failing to see your argument.
    Rather than go off on a tangent about other issues, please explain why the school should be allowed to discriminate against this girl on the basis of her sex. Sexual discrimination is illegal in almost all (maybe all??) other walks of life- why does a roman catholic school get to sidestep these laws?
     
  19. PoundSand

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    for the record, i don't think not allowing girls to play on boys team is sexual discrimination per se (nor does title ix) - it's the lack of opportunities. lack of opportunities does not mean lack of the exact same opportunities.

    as for why a catholic school should get to "side step" these laws, they should get to if they don't take federal support (which is probably not the case) of any sort, which is what triggers the title ix requirements. no taking funding -> not bound by the laws. if you're talking in principle, well, it IS an organization that they voluntarily joined - they should follow the rules of said organization if it doesn't violate any laws.
     
  20. youngsteinel

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    I signed, good to luck to her!
     

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