Enough already!

[DVD review guy]

With the warm ups before class! 30min's, really.....It's my responsibilty to get in shape. Cut down the warm up and throw in an extra technique.

 

[Dake]

On this, I completely agree. I have a gym membership, I spend my own time staying fit. Class should be the time for instruction, not the time for conditioning.

 

[Jagcorps_esq]

I disagree, to an extent.

Certainly, BJJ class isn't necessarily about getting into shape. That being said, there are certain movements that are important to your game and repeatedly doing them is vital to getting that memory you need to be able to do things automatically.

Additionally, an instructor has to strike a balance with techniques. Too few and it doesn't feel like you learned much; too much and no one really learns anything (except those with photographic memories that then drill those moves themselves later.)

As long as the movements I'm doing during a warm up have specific BJJ application, then I'm fine with a longer warm up. We usually do BJJ specific moves, then some partner drills on the issue of the day and then a few sets of arm bars, triangles, omaplatas, etc.

 

[Dake]

See, that I would be fine with. But 30-45 minutes doing squats and lunges and other bodyweight conditioning is wasteful to my when that is time that could be spent drilling or learning.

 

[JudokaUK]

With the warm ups before class!

This is my gripe with BJJ 'warm ups'.

Its not a 30 minute warm up.

Its a 30 minute cardio conditioning session.

Stop calling a conditioning session a warm up.

Warming up does not mean 30 minutes of cardio.

Either do a warm up followed by a 30 minute conditioning session.

Or do a 30 minute conditioning session.

Just stop calling your 30 minute conditioning session a warm up.

Its not really that difficult to name things appropriately.

 

[w0rM]

I agree. Warm up means warm up; 5 minutes is enough. Any further warming up should incorporate technique or specific BJJ movements.

I don't pay dues for conditioning classes.

 

[flej]

I'm ok with a 30 min warm up if it contains bjj specific drills, I'm not ok with running and doing push ups for 30 minutes, out of a 60 min class.

 

[muttonwar]

A thousand times yes!

Slow/flow roll or drilling passes and the holy trinity oma/armbar/triangle please.

 

[johnkreese]

I think 10 minutes is enough. It gets the blood flowing and opens your lungs up. I like the warm up....well, not really, but I see the benefits of doing them. ie: injury prevention.

 

[TMMAray]

Shrimp, bridge, etc. drills as "warm ups" = awesome

Situps, pushups, squats, or whatever exercise = shit you should be doing on your own time.

Just my opinions, but yeah, I don't go to muay thai class to do burpees, I don't go to BJJ to do situps, I don't go to wrestling to do pushups. I feel this is especially true because our gym has a conditioning class after the BJJ/MT/Wrestling/etc. classes.

 

[lakergirl52]

I disagree.

I hate going to the gym to workout. I get bored as hell with just jumping on a treadmill. I'll be on one for less then ten minutes and get off because I can't handle the boredom.

Plus, with working and school, it's hard to find extra time to get to the gym. I need my BJJ to contain some sort of conditioning to be able to work on my cardio. Yes, extra rolling helps with that, but I work harder when we do group exercises then if I was just to roll for an hour with a timer going off.

But then again, our classes are an hour and a half to two hours long, so we have plenty of time for everything.

 

[Spazzmaster]

I disagree.

I hate going to the gym to workout. I get bored as hell with just jumping on a treadmill. I'll be on one for less then ten minutes and get off because I can't handle the boredom.

Plus, with working and school, it's hard to find extra time to get to the gym. I need my BJJ to contain some sort of conditioning to be able to work on my cardio. Yes, extra rolling helps with that, but I work harder when we do group exercises then if I was just to roll for an hour with a timer going off.

But then again, our classes are an hour and a half to two hours long, so we have plenty of time for everything.

+1 personally

 

[MyBodyHurts]

Our warm up is about five to ten minutes followed by instruction. At times, I really wish the instruction would stop at three or four moves because often it will take the full hour and then a lot of people roll once and leave.

 

[1987warrior]

I've never taken a bjj class but am not looking forward to a 30 minute conditioning workout. I'll be paying to learn jiujitsu not pushups.

 

[Calibur]

The conditioning thing gets do bad I think it makes the instructor actually look irresponsible.

Seriously dude? 30 minutes of burpees? Do you realize how vast Jiu Jitsu technique is. Their is way to much to cover and drill to justify doing excercises people can do alone. Particularly when we can only do Jiu Jitsu with a partner in class.

Maybe someone should tell the drill sergeants that blind cardio isn't as necessary when you have time to practice good Jiu Jitsu technique.

 

[Jdonw]

I think that from both a competition perspective and self defense perspective, conditioning is paramount. I will agree calling it warm ups is bull, but that's semantics. If you want to learn bjj for competitions, you represent your school, I think it is the instructor's responsibility to give you the right tools to win. The two main tools are technique and conditioning. Even in a self defense situation, a fat out of shape guy isn't as capable as a strong conditioned person.

 

[MyBodyHurts]

The conditioning thing gets do bad I think it makes the instructor actually look irresponsible.

Seriously dude? 30 minutes of burpees? Do you realize how vast Jiu Jitsu technique is. Their is way to much to cover and drill to justify doing excercises people can do alone. Particularly when we can only do Jiu Jitsu with a partner in class.

Maybe someone should tell the drill sergeants that blind cardio isn't as necessary when you have time to practice good Jiu Jitsu technique.

Drinking tonight?

 

[Calibur]

Drinking tonight?

Right now? Having a delicious curry lunch while multi tasking forums.

I'll probably be drinking up in the mountains when my friends get in to town.

No burpees for me till January 6th. .

 

[MyBodyHurts]

How long is your class? If you're doing warm ups for a half hour and class is an hour, yeah, I think that's way too long. I think it's better to have a quick warm up, go over some technique, and roll for twenty minutes or more. That's just based on my experience that rolling leads to quicker improvement.

 

[Ice 9 Cobra]

My gym doesn't do warmups at all, love it. Been that way since 2002, no injuries from it..