Embarassing for a UFC Ref.

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When the fighter have to tell the ref, that the opponent is out.

Happenend againg yesterday at DWCS.

The ref (Herb Dean) was not even close to know, what actually is happening.

Really wonder, how long would it Herb to take until he did realize, that the guy was out.

In a promotion like UFC, the ref should go back to ref school for 6 months until he is allowed to ref another fight.
 
Herb is not the first ref that was told by a fighter the guy is out and depending on the situation can happen to anyone. You are describing it poorly with no clip and although Herb sucks so does your thread
Oh shit....pwnt!
 
It wasn't that bad. Fighters should tap but they are given every opportunity sometimes to win. That's how I felt watching the 2nd round of the 3rd fight

Fighters have all the sense and POV to know what's going on
 
When the fighter have to tell the ref, that the opponent is out.

Happenend againg yesterday at DWCS.

The ref (Herb Dean) was not even close to know, what actually is happening.

Really wonder, how long would it Herb to take until he did realize, that the guy was out.

In a promotion like UFC, the ref should go back to ref school for 6 months until he is allowed to ref another fight.
Not easy to be a good ref and Dean did good in the past but nowadays the guy is out of it. Like athletes we should not keep ref past a certain time, both for physical aspects (he is slow as hell) and conflict of interests (he knows the system way too much).
 
Herb sees color unless he's dealing with girls in that case he flips his preference. You ain't catching herb around no black girls. Abu was out for 8-9 seconds with Herb just giving fighter the "benefit of the doubt" from a distance.
 
Herb sees color unless he's dealing with girls in that case he flips his preference. You ain't catching herb around no black girls. Abu was out for 8-9 seconds with Herb just giving fighter the "benefit of the doubt" from a distance.

"he'll come back around eventually"
 
Herb is the only ref I can think of who has argued with a fighter that their unconscious opponent actually wasn't out.
 
Herb is on the pay roll to give favourable calls to more marketable fighters
 
Herb is not the first ref that was told by a fighter the guy is out and depending on the situation can happen to anyone. You are describing it poorly with no clip and although Herb sucks so does your thread

The issue is Herb is supposed to be the best (lol), has the most experience and yet is so inconsistent in application of rules and paying attention in critical spots.

The dude was clearly going completely limp from a fully-locked in triangle and Herb wasn’t even kneeling to look at his eyes or check his wrist or ask for a thumbs up, just casually watching someone getting strangled and taking no action to protect the fighter.

Luckily his opponent was a good guy and let him know dude was out plus let go immediately, but seemed like the dude was out for likely a good 5 seconds still getting choked before Herb even checked his wrist because the dude doing the triangle told him he was out.

It went the most egregious mistake, but it’s just symptomatic of his level of refereeing, which is all over the place with no consistency.
 
I've noticed lately that Chris Tognoni is getting way too close to standing in between the fighters in the last 10 seconds of the round, almost preemptively breaking them up, desperately trying to avoid any late blows.

Those seconds after the claps until the horn belong to us, the spazzy spinning shit/power double fighters, and the Just Bleed God.

His BS is depriving the fighters of the ability to land some crazy shit and us from seeing it come to pass.
 
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