Edgar has been busy accumulating 2 wins in his last 7 fights. Perhaps a little Beach time is in order for Frankie as well.So the kid free knee pad wearing dude from all that grainy footage they still use for his highlights?
I don't think the UFC owns a time machine, while BJ has been ballooning himself on food and sitting around on the beach Edgar has been keeping busy.
I don't even think BJ makes 145, yet alone makes it competitive this time.
Edgar has been busy accumulating 2 wins in his last 7 fights. Perhaps a little Beach time is in order for Frankie as well.
I accept the fact that Edgar won, but don't try to say it wasn't debatable. We know Frankie won officially, but many would argue it was bad decision.
Sherdog ranked that fight as the 8th worst decision of all time.
Almost the entire media plus Fight Metric scored the fight for BJ.
I watched that fight and didn't feel that it was a bad decision. Close fight and totally expected BJ to get the nod but I thought Frankie won, at the end of the fight.
I am willing to bet there are more than 8 UFC fights that had worse decisions than that one.
BJ has 1 win in his last 6 fights and I think Fitch won their fight, while absolutely hating Fitch.
He should be 1-5 in his last 6, instead of 1-4-1
I addressed exactly that contention. It appears we are in agreement.I agree that decision should have went to Penn but it didn't, so he didn't. The first 3 rounds were close, but Penn definitely did a bit more than Edgar in every one of those rounds, statistically and otherwise.
I disagree however with whoever said he "couldn't beat" Edgar. At least back then, Penn definitely could have, but he just got unlucky with some confused judges. Still, I see it as a 2-0 Edgar situation. It's not 1-1 as some people have been contesting.
I watched that fight and didn't feel that it was a bad decision. Close fight and totally expected BJ to get the nod but I thought Frankie won, at the end of the fight.
I am willing to bet there are more than 8 UFC fights that had worse decisions than that one.
A point that I agree with.BJ has 1 win in his last 6 fights and I think Fitch won their fight, while absolutely hating Fitch.
He should be 1-5 in his last 6, instead of 1-4-1
I beg your pardon! I, willin, am quite happy with my 65 plus years of accumulated wealth, a 38 year marriage and highly successful Children.
I simply brought up the undeniable fact that in Maynard/Edgar 2, while being battered by Maynard in R1, Edgar turned his back on the fight and grabbed the Cage Fence with both hands. His own Corner had the towel rolled and were screaming for the Referee to " stop the fight, stop the fight". Are you denying that any part of that occurred?
So, one or the other. Frankie Edgar is either the most egregious Cheat ever in the History of UFC Title Fights, OR Edgar was "out" and finished, had no idea what he was doing and the fight should have been stopped at that moment.
Again, for the umpteenth time, was Edgar "finished? Or is he an egregious cheat?
Which is it for you?
That may be true, but if you break it down round by round, there's no argument that has ever made sense that Edgar should have won any of the first 3 rounds.
Clearly, if that is a three round fight, Penn's chances of winning increase exponentially.Penn isn't as outmatched as people think. If he gets his jab going like in the first fight Edgar is going to have a lot of problems. BJ will keep timing him when he tries to come in
Although it is one of the few Edgar fights that I didn't attend live, I was mildly shocked at the decision. A 50-45 Card? Ridiculous.I agree. And that goes for Penn too.
If anyone actually won those rounds it was by a margin so incredibly small it's not worth mentioning. That's why I scored them 10-10.
"New Jersey", huh? My expectations are lessened immeasurably.Oh sweet jesus, not you again.
"New Jersey", huh? My expectations are lessened immeasurably.
Although it is one of the few Edgar fights that I didn't attend live, I was mildly shocked at the decision. A 50-45 Card? Ridiculous.
Actually, I saw Penn being more "Effective" in the first rounds than Frankie in the last two. And I was pulling for Edgar.
I agree. And that goes for Penn too.
If anyone actually won those rounds it was by a margin so incredibly small it's not worth mentioning. That's why I scored them 10-10.
I met this "145" with consternation equal to yours.I'm still 'wtf' about this being @ 145. Why, BJ? Anybody got a rational answer for that? I watched his interview on FS1 the other day and don't remember the subject being talked about. I do remember him saying (before the Dolce announcement) that the set weight was still iffy as well as exactly when and where.