Eddy Reynoso (Canelo Trainer) invites Mcgregga to train with him n his team (canelo, garcia,valdez)

[Megalodon]

McGregor needs to step away from Boxing and come back to training MMA.

 

[El Fernas]

Conor doesnt have the heart to get lit up by young mexican teens every time he spars

Valdez fights at 130lbs, and that guy would put Conor in trouble, he isnt exactly young tho, Garcia is the young one there at 22.

They just want the promotion and attention Conor brings, Kovalev did the same when Conor was schedule to fight Floyd

Yup, even tho he is training 2 of the most popular boxers atm, and 3rd one Valdez just won a world title in a great fight a week before Canelo, its not like Reynoso needs the exposure imo, btw, i found an Nov 2019 video of Jake Paul training there, probably cause he is friends with Garcia.

 

[MMAALLDAYBAYBAY]

his style is already figured out. Bringing the kicks won't help him at this poing of his career. He ditched those after Nate beat his ass on their first fight and went for a more boxing focused style. Even in the alvarez fight he only did front kicks.

Mcg did hurt Dustin but that wasn't enough, he just got outmatched and totally figured out.

Nate has a granite chin, and incredible cardio. That is Conor's kryptonite in a 5 round fight. With that said, he still learned from the 1st fight, adjusted and beat Nate handily in the second fight. He didn't start the boxing nonsense until after the Floyd fight. Watch all of his ufc fights prior to the Khabib fight. He always used a variety of kicks mainly to manage distance and drain his opponent's cardio with front kicks and body kicks. He didn't need many kicks in the Alvarez fight because he lit Eddie up like a Christmas tree and was playing ping-pong with his head. He always ends fights with his hands, but he has always used kicks very effectively for many reasons. His style changed completely after the Floyd fight from a bouncy karate based stance/style to a more traditional boxing style. Aside from Cowboy, who is WAY past his prime at this fight, he looked absolutely horrible against Khabib and Dustin. His style was also noticeably very different from his prior fights.
It is quite easy for opponents to figure out his boxing style as it is very one dimensional. Obviously he always has power in his hands and the ability to hurt people, but he did not move around like he used to in either the Khabib or 2nd Dustin fight.

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

Honestly, the last thing Conor needs is boxing training. He looked absolutely awful in his last fight. He came into the fight basically as a one dimensional boxer and completely abandoned/forgot the style that got him to the top. His stance was off, his reactions/reflexes were off, his kicks were nowhere to be seen, his movement looked awful. He gave up an incredibly easy takedown that Dustin barely even tried for. He looked like a completely different fighter. Kind of looked like a boxer newly transitioning to mma. To me, he seemed to be clearly looking past Dustin and just looking towards the Pac-Man fight. He needs to be all in or all out. Give up the boxing nonsense or retire. His last fight was an embarrassment and undoubtedly damaged his brand.

This might be what does in Ngannou as well, I hope not but he's still more interested in boxing than MMA and has been hanging around a lot of people in the boxing scene. Wish he wasn't so obsessed with boxing and would just fully focus on MMA.

 

[MMAALLDAYBAYBAY]

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He needs to improve his boxing, it hasn't improved and actually his boxing got stagnant a bit while Dustin's improved. He was always boxing focused on his style. Everything was to set up his hands. So his boxing needs an upgrade because it's been figured out. Dustin outboxed him and was countering his main combos. Yes work on his kicking game too, but he also needs to change up his boxing game.

He needs the style that Canelo and his trainers can show him. A mix of mexican style with western style, Philly shell, slick-style boxing.

He absolutely does not need the Canelo style. He is not, nor has he ever been a boxer. He was incredible at movement, timing, and countering, but it was not based on boxing. It was based on his movement, and variety of attacks, as well as his pinpoint accuracy.
He looked like a COMPLETELY different fighter after the Floyd fight. Prior to that, he had a bouncy karate stance/style, he was incredible with his movement/timing and ability to counter. In the Khabib fight and 2nd Dustin fight, his style and stance completely changed and it was no coincidence that it changed directly after the Floyd fight.
MO, he was spending way too much time on his boxing and abandoned the style that made him the incredible fighter that he once was. He needs to tell his boxing trainer to f*ck off and go back to what he was doing before the Floyd fight. He was very clearly looking past Dustin and likely working mostly on his boxing hoping for a Manny Pacquiao fight. Watch his fights prior to the Floyd fight and you should be able to easily notice MAJOR differences in his style, stance, and overall game.

 

[MMAALLDAYBAYBAY]

Conor really thinks his boxing is something to marvel at.
He's a great MMA striker, but an absolute mediocre boxer. Floyd tooled him without once ever having to use the philly defense. Literally went straight at him which was so un-Floyd like.

Correct. He became obsessed with boxing and completely abandoned his versatile/elusive style that made him one of the greatest strikers of all time. Watch his fights prior to the Floyd fight and it is very easy to notice many differences in his stance, style, and overall game.

 

[TRYHARD 2001]

his style is already figured out. Bringing the kicks won't help him at this poing of his career. He ditched those after Nate beat his ass on their first fight and went for a more boxing focused style. Even in the alvarez fight he only did front kicks.

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In their second fight McG lit Nate's legs up with low kicks. To be fair though, everyone seems to do that to Nate. Agreed that we haven't really seen him use leg kicks after that though, but it was a high kick that spelled the beginning of the end for Cerrone. The kicks are still in the arsenal, he just doesn't seem as interested in using them as he was earlier in his career.

CC and Chuck were like that too, but I seem to remember injuries were the cause of that.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

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He absolutely does not need the Canelo style. He is not, nor has he ever been a boxer. He was incredible at movement, timing, and countering, but it was not based on boxing. It was based on his movement, and variety of attacks, as well as his pinpoint accuracy.
He looked like a COMPLETELY different fighter after the Floyd fight. Prior to that, he had a bouncy karate stance/style, he was incredible with his movement/timing and ability to counter. In the Khabib fight and 2nd Dustin fight, his style and stance completely changed and it was no coincidence that it changed directly after the Floyd fight.
MO, he was spending way too much time on his boxing and abandoned the style that made him the incredible fighter that he once was. He needs to tell his boxing trainer to f*ck off and go back to what he was doing before the Floyd fight. He was very clearly looking past Dustin and likely working mostly on his boxing hoping for a Manny Pacquiao fight. Watch his fights prior to the Floyd fight and you should be able to easily notice MAJOR differences in his style, stance, and overall game.

It was a mix of all that but his biggest strength was his boxing combos/timiing/speed. He had his kicks instead of using jabs at range, he had his in and out movements and wild kicks from the outside and once he got in boxing range he used his boxing. Primary his 1-2 and lead uppercut combos. Only problem now is that his boxing has been figured out. His timing/pattern/combos have been analyzed and gameplanned against, reason why Dustin was countering his main combos. He does need Caenlo style but it isn't going to be an easy style to learn. He's not going to pick it up just like that because he would have to completely change his current striking/boxing style to use it effectively. But it's what his style needs. Mix in his old kicking game, bring back his movement/footwork and he could very well win the trilogy fight.

Yeah he changed his style to a forward pressure walk them down style ever since he lost to Mayweather. But that style doesn't suit him and is actually the main reason for his losses. His boxing game lacks an inside boxing game so him pressuring forward just to wait in mid range waiting for a strike to counter goes against that style. That's why he doesn't find success with it. He's better off using movement with his in and out movement and drawing the strikes to counter that way. His reaction time isn't fast enough to handle combinations mid range. He doesn't read combinations well and his head movement is limited to trying to slip/counter 1 or 2 strikes only. That's why he got tagged up by Dustin when Dustin stepped into inside range, also same reason Nate Diaz was able to connect so much on the inside. He just slips the first 2 strikes and tries to cover up and waits for the combination to end instead of countering and breaking the combo in-between the punches/strikes. He currently has a weakness in his boxing defense vs combination strikers that can throw more than 3 punches/strikes at a time.

 

[The Rivv]

Conor, go to Thailand or Holland and Kickbox.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

so, now he will work on his boxing with world class guys and hopefully fix the mistakes he made. The whole argument is that, you could have boxing coaches and MMA coaches too..

yeah, and my argument is that while he definitely can have both, shouldn't he be working on getting rid of the kicks instead of splitting his time with boxing?

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Because the calf kicks didn't really do anything in terms of his striking movement that wasn't already happening. He was already tired in the first after the clinching, he got desperate in the 2nd. He was already stationary before the calf kicks did any damage, he was already getting countered at the end of round 1 and most of round 2. He got knocked out after getting clipped by a counter by Dustin, then Dustin stepped inside and finished him using inside boxing. Only thing calf kicks did was stop Conor from being able to step in to his 1-2. Which didn't really matter at that point because Dustin had the timing/speed of Conor's 1-2 already and had Conor missing the combination over and over again, or getting countered while attempting it in round 2. He wasn't using movement before the calf kicks so it didn't affect his stationary new stance/style.

Lots of people think it's the calf kicks that won the fight. The fight was won already before the calf kicks, it just sped it up. The outcome would've been the same with or without the calf kicks.

ok, i can see where you're coming from on this. BUT i'd have to argue the reason why his boxing sucks is, ironically, because he's training boxing. he had a heavy lead leg boxing stance before he even got kicked and he seemed a lot more disciplined in his stance then he usually is where he constantly switches stances and feints kicks giving different looks.

 

[Beastos]

yeah, and my argument is that while he definitely can have both, shouldn't he be working on getting rid of the kicks instead of splitting his time with boxing?

he should be working on every aspect of MMA. LMAO, this isn't dragon ball z or some anime where fighters work on 1 specific thing for 12 hours straight. The dude is a multimillionaire athlete. He has time..

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

he should be working on every aspect of MMA. LMAO, this isn't dragon ball z or some anime where fighters work on 1 specific thing for 12 hours straight. The dude is a multimillionaire athlete. He has time..

that's cuz you assume i meant train 12 hrs a day straight for checking low kicks. and that's not what i meant. Fedor went to Holland to train with Hoost for months before his fight with Cro Cop. specific kickboxing training, specifically to develop a defense for Mirko's left kicks. it worked exceptionally well.

i don't see why he needs to work on his boxing, his boxing training is a big reason he looked the way he did in the Poirer fight. he had a boxing stance, he used his jab and 1-2 to open up Poirer's defense, he was heavy on the lead leg. but all of that shit wasn't really that effective in the fight.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

ok, i can see where you're coming from on this. BUT i'd have to argue the reason why his boxing sucks is, ironically, because he's training boxing. he had a heavy lead leg boxing stance before he even got kicked and he seemed a lot more disciplined in his stance then he usually is where he constantly switches stances and feints kicks giving different looks.

That has to do with his stance and him trying to be more of a power puncher. Not all boxers use a stationary heavy front foot stance. It's just the type of stance he's using with his euro style boxing to try and add more power. But Conor isn't really a power puncher, he's a precision puncher. His TKO/KO come from his timing/precision and not his power.

He needed to practice some mexican style and western style boxing to round out his boxing game. Canelo's style would work best because it mixes the mexican style with the western style. Plus uses shoulder roll/Philly shell with the slick style boxing. Which is more focused on movement/footwork/head movement. These are the things lacking in his euro style boxing and also why his boxing style is weak on the inside. Euro style focuses more on counters and fighting from the outside.

 

[PurpleDrank]

Negative, he needs better boxing. His current boxing got exposed and is too predictable now. His combos have been studied and he hasn't added on to his boxing game. Dustin out boxed him. If he doesn't want to be out boxed again he needs better boxing.

Thats facts, the people itt saying he doesnt need better boxing training arent too bright.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

Thats facts, the people itt saying he doesnt need better boxing training arent too bright.

I think it deals more with people underestimating high level boxing. A lot think just basic boxing is enough. But that gets exposed all the time by high level mma boxers.

 

[drbolony]

Mcgregor and Ruiz as conditioning buddies?

 

[YourBoss]

That would be so fucking legit if Conor trained alongside Canelo under the guidance of Reynoso, who is hands down the best boxing coach on the planet. Each of his fighters improves every single fight. Its crazy. Of course he could get Conor to that next level. Conor has solid power, good reflexes and good eye and crazy placement and precision. If he could use those talents to get a bigger arsenal of wheapons to fuck up people standing up instead of always doing the same pullcounter, he could really gain from this. 8 weeks boxing with reynoso, 8 weeks training in thailand and dustin is getting fucked up in the rematch. However i doubt this will happen, doubt he will ever be aware of that offer. would also be a great publicity stunt for both Canelo and McGregor.

 

[listrahtes]

Its not about boxing or mma training. McG is a counter puncher and as that you win by being extra sharp and conditioned. He just got lazy and what you loose you dont get back. He is that part of a second slower now and his cardio will stay shit. He is just not a top fighter anymore and hasnt been in some time.

As a counter puncher relying on reflexes you are either on top of the game or you get brutalized when it doesnt click anymore and not training at your best affects you much more.

 

[Jesus ODI]

i just think someone with the resources and connections, offers, etc like Conor can easily train a few weeks with Reynoso and his Team, benefit from it, improve and then somewhere else like Holland or Thailand for the kicking part of his game