i'm bored so here goes, these are my experiences with this sweep. for those that don't know it you can find it on this eddie bravo highlight http://www.bjjfighter.com/Video/twister.wmv The Pros; the 'lockdown' where you grapevine the trapped leg between your ankles- really stretches your opponent out and breaks down their posture making their pass harder, and the sweep easier. most folk focus on defending the sweep where i'd reach under their free leg and sweep them across me, when they sit back to defend this they make the 'old school' sweep easier if they defend by leaning forward and putting weight on you they open themselves up to the sweep i mentioned above the most common defence is for them to post their free leg out wide so you can't grab the foot. this leaves a huge gap to bring the inside leg through for full guard, so at worst it's a sweep that helps improve position. The cons; half guard is like the last line of defence in a positional sense, so any mistakes can result in getting passed and dominated. halfguard sucks if you get flattened out, if i can't get the underhook and they get head and arm control then i'm fucked and they're as good as passed. when balled up and reaching in to get the foot for the sweep, there's always the threat of getting roughed up ie choked/cranked or just plain cross-faced. especially as my arms are trying to get the foot and can't defend the neck. It's hard to time when to get up on my elbow and open my legs to get on my knees and sit up. gotta practice more i guess. anyone else like to use 'old school' and got any thoughts on it?