E. Warren: 2020 Democratic candidates too white, lack of diversity

I'm friends with trans people and trans advocates, that's a pretty absurd take friendo. Mental health treatment for LGBTQ teens is especially a concern considering the high risk of suicide and homelessness. Back when I used to kick it at squat houses, a lot of the trainhoppers I met were gay kids that got kicked out of their homes for being gay or trans. Pretty sad shit really.
Nothing wrong with being gay, but feeling you are something you are physically not(and willing to take your own life over it) is most definitely a mental disorder.
 
Nothing wrong with being gay, but feeling you are something you are physically not(and willing to take your own life over it) is most definitely a mental disorder.

It's pretty complicated it seems. I'm a big fan of just do whatever the fuck you want as long as it isn't hurting anyone. Every trans person I know has felt that way their entire life. I don't usually talk politics or anything with my trans friends though. Hell I don't really talk politics anywhere outside of here.

No, he doesn't. He's a troll.

Lmao sure violent revolution is pretty sexy but I think we should stick to the ballot boxes for now.

Although this will be the first time I actually vote in a presidential election, I tend to just vote local initiatives and stuff like that but the current administration is a shitshow and Sanders popularity in the last one has made the Democrats approach a lot more actual policy initiatives I support.
 
It's a step in the right direction. Vote for candidates who treat the mental health issue as the crisis it is.

I guess I just don't see it as purely a need for government solution, I don't see what policy "rednecks" are voting for/against that is perpetuating opioid addiction, and I think voting for a solution is often a cop-out for people who don't want to act themselves.

What things, specifically, are these "rednecks" voting against that is leading to the prevalent opioid addiction and suicide rates?
 
I guess I just don't see it as purely a need for government solution, I don't see what policy "rednecks" are voting for/against that is perpetuating opioid addiction, and I think voting for a solution is often a cop-out for people who don't want to act themselves.

What things, specifically, are these "rednecks" voting against that is leading to the prevalent opioid addiction and suicide rates?
I would say it's often endorsing a continuation of punishment for addiction rather than treatment.

Medical marijuana has been adopted by more conservatives though, but Federal prohibition needs to end.

Issues like this.

https://www.mentalhealthcolorado.or...-health-care-bill-bad-medicine-mental-health/
 
Warren is just another asshole that anointed herself a moderator of white guilt woke culture. People with egos like this are sub human vultures trying to push the latest directorates onto the rest of the populace. Her and her kind need to stfu. <JonesDXSuckIt>
 
So all Jews push this bullshit? Or just the woke moron ones? Which would beg the question as to why you’d separate out the Jews from the other white woke morons in the first place. I guess cause they don’t believe the bullshit like the woke morons, but they manipulated those morons cause they benefit somehow from it.

Anyway, while I generally agree with your sentiment there, there’s no need for that stereotyping bullshit imo
There's a lot to unpack here but I think we basically agree. I was a bit agitated when I made that post based on what I've seen here and from personal experiences. I think most people are well intentioned and pretty sincere. There are some manipulators, but they're coming from all walks of life, no one group is responsible.
 
Despite being on the left on most issues, I absolutely cant stand the PC police or nonsensical SJW ass-kissing cringe like this. Good and popular ideas a candidate has aren't somehow better because they check off a few different boxes on a survey. The loudmouths who prescribe to this sort of nonsense are a minority who use undeserved influence to push moderates and independents out of the party and lose the election for the left... And then blame someone like Bernie for the loss.
A sensible take. See why can’t all leftists see it like you, instead of going on some triggered rant about white conservatives?
 
Warren is out of line again. The field was given a fairer shot than ever before, and Harris just wasn't that good of a candidate. Still surprised that Booker never got going, but he's got some years left. In a way, she's even bitching at people for keeping her around, unless she's hiding behind her gender. And in both cases, not a smart or fair thing to say.
I was talking to some friends of mine about why the diverse candidates seem to failed.

As someone who hasn't followed the primary to closely I settled on the idea that the non-white, non-traditional candidates tended to be moderate to as to remain electable. Being non-white and radical in policy might seem like too much a gamble, mainly for donors but probably also the electorate in terms of being electable. I don't think America is ready for a black queer socialist POTUS for instance.

Pete is white of course but he's also gay and he's representative of what a gay candidate would have to be just to remain reasonably electable; he's one of the only candidates(maybe the only?) candidate who's a veteran on the Dem side, he's also very moderate in his policy, and he's even emphasized his Catholic background to an extent.

Kamala and Booker just didn't really stand out in terms of policy. The only minority who did was Yang with his Freedom Dividend but that wasn't enough, not in such a crowded field with such established politicians like Sanders and Warren and Biden running.
Despite being on the left on most issues, I absolutely cant stand the PC police or nonsensical SJW ass-kissing cringe like this. Good and popular ideas a candidate has aren't somehow better because they check off a few different boxes on a survey. The loudmouths who prescribe to this sort of nonsense are a minority who use undeserved influence to push moderates and independents out of the party and lose the election for the left... And then blame someone like Bernie for the loss.
If anything I think this is a strategy to marginalize radicals, not moderates. The people who parrot that sort of line might prefer the electorate vote for a moderate candidate of color than white candidate that has more radical policies.
 
Liberalism is dead. So is conservatism. Liberals used to say that. It's become a pretty conservative idea by now. Conservatives used to at least pretend to care about family values. They voted for the grab them by the pussy guy. These things are dynamic.

Even though I don't necessarily disagree, I refuse to concede the left and liberalism to these authoritarian ding bats. They are not what the left stands for and are hijacking the philosophy.

Eric Weinstein had a good recent tweet...



I think what is happening is you have a lot of people in power and with influence that have these wacky ideas because they live in a bubble. I think a lot of this has to do with celebrity culture. These people live in gated communities and only hang out with other elites. When they talk about open borders, they are surrounded by their security gates and would be the first one to complain if Mexicans took over their communities. The defend and prop up Islam because they might be friends with a super liberal Muslim and think that's how they are all. Meanwhile, women are getting acid thrown in their face for not being veiled and gays are being killed for their sexual preference in Islamic countries. Guns are bad but are OK if their bodyguards have them. I could go on and on.

When they tweet these ideas, the celebrity-obsessed culture tweets them back and wants to belong because they look up to celebrities as heroes and scholars. It's really a sad turn of affairs and as someone on the left, I do feel like there's a gigantic backlash forming and if it means another Trump re-election, I'm honestly OK with it. The left has to distance themselves from this rhetoric and go back to being actual liberals. If the celebrities and woke people with blue hair want to form their own party called the Identitarians, please do so.

Edit: I had no idea Rose was a Republican and I don't think Eric did either when he posted that. The point stands though - the neo-fascists need to be outed and hopefully they stop being conflated as "liberals" by the right because that, they are not.
 
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You've noticed the GOP's longstanding pattern of tokenizing the few black people they can find, foisting them onto a platform, then shoving them into a closet when their ideas, the actual thing that matters, are as vacuous as the rest of conservative "thought". Then you fell for an easy ass trap.
Lol, no I didn’t you twat.

In the exact post you replied to I acknowledged that the GOP is a white party.

My original post was speaking on young groups of progressives and conservatives, particularly those on youtube, social media, people who participate in internet "culture wars"
 
Given that the last debate actually chose transgenderism as topic over a myriad of others, as well got so much time - I'm surprised old Liz isn't clamoring for more heshes on the ticket
 
So all Jews push this bullshit? Or just the woke moron ones? Which would beg the question as to why you’d separate out the Jews from the other white woke morons in the first place. I guess cause they don’t believe the bullshit like the woke morons, but they manipulated those morons cause they benefit somehow from it.

Anyway, while I generally agree with your sentiment there, there’s no need for that stereotyping bullshit imo
Nah he has a point though. Look at "woke" institutions like the ACLU and SPLC and The Innocence project and you'll find that Jews are way over-represented. That's not a bad thing, its something Jews should be proud of. My theory is that Jews are sensitive to the grievances of minorities because they are a minority that has been historically oppressed to the point that its a defining feature of their self identity as a community. But unlike other minorities they're disproportionately well off and well placed in society(in fields like law and entertainment) to do something about it.

However sometimes this kind of woke Jew, like his woke white gentile counterpart, can find themselves in the kind of upper class urban liberal bubble where despite claiming to care about minorities and their grievances they are in fact completely alienated from them and end up making silly patronizing statements like what Warren said here.
 
Mental health treatment for LGBTQ teens is especially a concern considering the high risk of suicide and homelessness. Back when I used to kick it at squat houses, a lot of the trainhoppers I met were gay kids that got kicked out of their homes for being gay or trans. Pretty sad shit really.

I hear and read those stories from people virtually everyday.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19117902/

Higher rates of family rejection were significantly associated with poorer health outcomes. On the basis of odds ratios: lesbian, gay, and bisexual young adults who reported higher levels of family rejection during adolescence were 8.4 times more likely to report having attempted suicide, 5.9 times more likely to report high levels of depression, 3.4 times more likely to use illegal drugs, and 3.4 times more likely to report having engaged in unprotected sexual intercourse compared with peers from families that reported no or low levels of family rejection.

Duh.
 
I swear to god if someone like Elizabeth Warren gets the democratic nomination I’m voting Trump, and I’m a guy that usually votes democrat.

Getting real sick of what this party is turning into.
 
However sometimes this kind of woke Jew, like his woke white gentile counterpart, can find themselves in the kind of upper class urban liberal bubble where despite claiming to care about minorities and their grievances they are in fact completely alienated from them and end up making silly patronizing statements like what Warren said here.

A good term is limousine liberals
 
A sensible take. See why can’t all leftists see it like you, instead of going on some triggered rant about white conservatives?


I think both sides engage in their own form of identity politics, the right tends to prop up any minority they can as evidence of their inclusivity, when in reality those minorities are generally incompetent grifters using their newly gained notoriety for a quick buck by trashing their own for supporting Dems. (Example: Candace Owens, Dave Rubin)

As soon as they dont fall into lockstep, they get marginalized (example: Michael Steele)
 
I think both sides engage in their own form of identity politics, the right tends to prop up any minority they can as evidence of their inclusivity, when in reality those minorities are generally incompetent grifters using their newly gained notoriety for a quick buck by trashing their own for supporting Dems. (Example: Candace Owens, Dave Rubin)

As soon as they dont fall into lockstep, they get marginalized (example: Michael Steele)

Rubin's guests will sit there, look him directly in his face and tell him he's a threat to family, society and culture; along with an assortment other WR "talking points". His brain struggles to process so many high level, important ideas. The guy is flat out gormless, but not that stupid. I hope the money's good, you spineless fuck.
 
i thought diversity issue was about the democrat candidates being all dull, cookie-cutter lame drones, not the skin color.
 
Drop out or stfu pocahontas
 
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