Social E. Jean Carroll Accuses Trump of Sexual Assault, Rape in Dressing Room 23-24 Years Ago

Do you really not have any idea that women could be attracted to a famous billionaire and have a consensual encounter with him in which he grabbed them by the vagina?

And that is taking everything he said literally, and not just two guys joking on a bus about women in hyperbole?

Pray tell, you give this same sort of consideration to Bill Clinton, right? All that's ever been truly proven is that he came on Monica's dress, and since she totally consented, he's not a creep at all, is he? It's just all so above board.
 
Pray tell, you give this same sort of consideration to Bill Clinton, right? All that's ever been truly proven is that he came on Monica's dress, and since she totally consented, he's not a creep at all, is he? It's just all so above board.

What does Bill Clinton have to do with the premise that Trump bragged about sexual assault? All I'm contending is that Trump bragged about consensual encounters with women.
 
What does Bill Clinton have to do with the premise that Trump bragged about sexual assault? All I'm contending is that Trump bragged about consensual encounters with women.

The right constantly seems to take the president, or anyone on the right's side, no matter the accusation, insisting since he hasn't been to jail for it he's innocent. Yet, you never seem to apply that to others. Weird.

"She didn't stop me, must be consent!!"

Yeah, Weinstein must've used that quite a few times when jerking off on women and couches.
 
The right constantly seems to take the president, or anyone on the right's side, no matter the accusation, insisting since he hasn't been to jail for it he's innocent. Yet, you never seem to apply that to others. Weird.

"She didn't stop me, must be consent!!"

Yeah, Weinstein must've used that quite a few times when jerking off on women and couches.
And yet people like you believe this woman but think all of Clinton's accusers are lying whores. Can't have it both ways.
 
Do you really not have any idea that women could be attracted to a famous billionaire and have a consensual encounter with him in which he grabbed them by the vagina?

And that is taking everything he said literally, and not just two guys joking on a bus about women in hyperbole?
questions with questions...his entire character as a human being is dogshit dude. I can't believe we're arguing the merits of whether he's a scumbag regarding women. The guy fucked a porn star while his wife was pregnant and repeatedly gets called out by credible people for being a shithead to women.
 
If you go to kiss a woman randomly and she allows you to do it and gives no indication that she doesn't want you to do that, she has consented. Same with grabbing them by the vagina.

How would you satisfy the mens rea requirement for a guilty defendant if the alleged victim gave no indication that she wanted him to stop and allowed him to grab her?
not how the law works. Be less stupid.

I am big guy. If i walk into a coffee shop, grab a woman by the pussy and walk out and she says or does nothing, I cannot later tell my friends I had consent for that.

That is not how the law works. If there is a video camera and she is approached by the police a week later once the footage gets out and asked if she gave consent, and she says no and wants to have me charged I will be charged.

I cannot argue she did not say not to do it before or after so I had consent.

YOu are stupid and wrong.
 
Please tell me that isn't real. It would cast huge doubts on her entire story - as if I wasn't skeptical enough already.
Not saying that Facebook thing is fake but saying it could be faked. I have seen too many of these things not be true. Is there another source other than a rando twitter handle?

Was in Greece on vacation and had to dig up an old Facebook account so it took me a little bit to respond (Also I'm not good at facebook and haven't used it for anything other than Tinder since around 2010). Basically you have to be logged into Facebook to see the response but it's definitely real and links to her account. Here's the thread. She still hasn't deleted it, either because she knows a lot of people won't care either way or she's a moron. Click on view previous comments to see it.

 
not how the law works. Be less stupid.

I am big guy. If i walk into a coffee shop, grab a woman by the pussy and walk out and she says or does nothing, I cannot later tell my friends I had consent for that.

That is not how the law works. If there is a video camera and she is approached by the police a week later once the footage gets out and asked if she gave consent, and she says no and wants to have me charged I will be charged.

I cannot argue she did not say not to do it before or after so I had consent.

YOu are stupid and wrong.

Haha you’re adding facts to fit your agenda. You can just as easily say that if I walk into a coffee shop and I grab a woman by the vagina without asking and she lets me do it while thinking “omg this is so hot”, she has consented.

There is nothing in what Trump said on the bus to indicate that the second scenario isn’t what happened.

It’s not a hard concept to grasp.
 

Was in Greece on vacation and had to dig up an old Facebook account so it took me a little bit to respond (Also I'm not good at facebook and haven't used it for anything other than Tinder since around 2010). Basically you have to be logged into Facebook to see the response but it's definitely real and links to her account. Here's the thread. She still hasn't deleted it, either because she knows a lot of people won't care either way or she's a moron. Click on view previous comments to see it.


Thanks.
@MMAisGod beat you to the post.
Also I think she is a moron.
Personally I think they probably banged but it was consensual. She might have regretted the banging, but we have all banged someone that we probably wish we didn't.
 
questions with questions...his entire character as a human being is dogshit dude. I can't believe we're arguing the merits of whether he's a scumbag regarding women. The guy fucked a porn star while his wife was pregnant and repeatedly gets called out by credible people for being a shithead to women.

Yeah that was shitty for him to do.

But he didn’t brag about sexual assault on the bus.
 
And yet people like you believe this woman but think all of Clinton's accusers are lying whores. Can't have it both ways.

Great presumption.

Here in reality, I happen to think Bill Clinton has sexually assaulted many women, and generally takes advantage of them, or anyone else he possibly can, in any way.

But good job speaking of me without knowing anything about me.
 

Was in Greece on vacation and had to dig up an old Facebook account so it took me a little bit to respond (Also I'm not good at facebook and haven't used it for anything other than Tinder since around 2010). Basically you have to be logged into Facebook to see the response but it's definitely real and links to her account. Here's the thread. She still hasn't deleted it, either because she knows a lot of people won't care either way or she's a moron. Click on view previous comments to see it.


I think the fact that she is a loon actually makes this more possible. She is being sarcastic, making a hilarious joke (I don’t think it’s funny at all, but I’m sure hordes of her fans do) because obviously that is the last show she likes. Lowest form of humor.

I wouldn’t be slightly surprised if a playa like Trump came on to her. I doubt that it bothered her one bit which is why she can joke about it and use it to get her kicks in to satisfy sarcasm loving simpleton Libs. And of course she is only making it into a ‘rape’ accusation now in order to sell a book and maybe get the Evil Hitler Monster out of power.
 
Great presumption.

Here in reality, I happen to think Bill Clinton has sexually assaulted many women, and generally takes advantage of them, or anyone else he possibly can, in any way.

But good job speaking of me without knowing anything about me.
It's good to see you finally changed.
 
Its not a matter of comprehension. You are just wrong. If a bully beats up a kid and the kid does not tell anyone due to shame or other and the bully says, 'I beat him up, he let me do it', that does not equal consent.

That you do not understand the language is not my problem. You are factually wrong.

He is not smart enough to understand that.

He thinks that if someone just does something without asking first and then that person neither calls the cops nor confronts him on the spot and they 'let him do it' then that equals consent.

If I walk up to a gal and grab her pussy in a coffee shop and she says or does nothing and I tell friends later she just 'let me do it', he proclaims that is then consent. She 'let you do it'.
Some day you'll get him Mike,,,,,,, Someday.
 
It's good to see you finally changed.

I never was for the Clintons. I knew he was a triangulating abuser who would sell or harm anyone, and would take any foreign dollar he and his wife could get their grubby mitts on when I was in middle school.

This might be a shock, but most people don't look at something like rape and factor in a D or R into their though processing.....
 
Haha you’re adding facts to fit your agenda. You can just as easily say that if I walk into a coffee shop and I grab a woman by the vagina without asking and she lets me do it while thinking “omg this is so hot”, she has consented.

There is nothing in what Trump said on the bus to indicate that the second scenario isn’t what happened.

It’s not a hard concept to grasp.
No you are stupid and factually wrong.

If you walk up to a random woman at a coffee shop and just grab her by the pussy and even it turns out she likes it, after the fact, does not mean you had consent to do it when you acted. You acted without consent but get away with it as she liked it.
 
No you are stupid and factually wrong.

If you walk up to a random woman at a coffee shop and just grab her by the pussy and even it turns out she likes it, after the fact, does not mean you had consent to do it when you acted. You acted without consent but get away with it as she liked it.

Lol wow. So what you’re saying is that if you grab a woman by the vagina, she lets you do it, enjoys it, and gives no indication that she wants you to stop, you committed sexual battery because you didn’t get consent before you made a move? Are you saying that all escalation of intimacy without prior consent, despite of the other person enjoyed it and allowed you to do it, is sexual battery? I’m laughing at you.
 
Yeah that was shitty for him to do.

But he didn’t brag about sexual assault on the bus.
I don't agree with the interpretation he's some harmless guy, he's a sociopath... and also tend to think he was just being a comedian for attention with the "grab pussy" comment.
 
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