I had to watch my grandfather decline with dementia for a decade and when it started going south, he would literally say he'd rather die than to get worse. Years later, he was wasting away in hospice with no visitors because of covid. The last time I saw he couldn't speak, weighed 90 pounds, going through organ failure with no capacity to understand what he was going through.
I think, if someone wants to die before such illness can really tighten its grip, they should be allowed to do so.
well, I believe you could also go there live there for a month or two and undergo assisted suicide for almost any reason, even if you are depressed. but this is a bit backward to me being that I feel we have the right and dignity to die when we want and this just gives and takes it away from you.Yeah this was fucked up when it happened. The Dutch supreme court overturned the murder charge because the patient had an advanced directive. Such directives are illegal in, for example, Canada because there is no such thing as advance consent. The idea being that consent has to be able to be revoked, otherwise it's not consent. In the Netherlands now, if you have dementia, you are legally not allowed to change your mind. That's fucking bonkers to me.
The Netherlands is a silly place full of silly people.
Why the fuck are you making assumptions. It's very clear in the Dutch law that the death wish may not stem from a psychiatric disorder. The only case where you can get euthanasia for depression is if you've had a lifetime of chronic depression and have tried every treatment in the book, and even then it's fairly hard to get it granted.well, I believe you could also go there live there for a month or two and undergo assisted suicide for almost any reason, even if you are depressed. but this is a bit backward to me being that I feel we have the right and dignity to die when we want and this just gives and takes it away from you.
I don't think anyone who says otherwise has any experience with family suffering from dementia.
My uncle spent his last months in paralyzing terror. My mother is on her way since her strokes, and has already asked me to kill her. I was given power of attorney to enforce a DNR when the time comes, which is as close to her wishes as I was willing to go.
Idk I've actually emailed doctors over there about their Termination of Life on Request and Assisted Suicide ActWhy the fuck are you making assumptions. It's very clear in the Dutch law that the death wish may not stem from a psychiatric disorder. The only case where you can get euthanasia for depression is if you've had a lifetime of chronic depression and have tried every treatment in the book, and even then it's fairly hard to get it granted.
You guys act like you can walk into the doctor's office, ask for euthanasia and be dead the next week.
It's a difficult problem. If you believe that there's a right to euthanasia, then you have to figure out what to do in cases where people aren't able to decide anymore, e.g. becoming a vegetable or dementia etc. Do you then let people make a declaration before that time or not? If they made that decision, do you honor the decision from when they were able to reason soundly, or do you take whatever state they are in during their far progression into dementia?
It's not like we're killing people for fun over here.
This reminds me of Iceland where they have gotten rid of Down syndrome by pressuring women with Down fetuses to abort them.
How is this a wrong policy?
PS: Patient with Dementia doesn't want to die. How surprising.
I sure prefer the streets of the USA where plenty of mentally ill people are just roaming around waiting to hurt themselves and others.
This makes me pretty uncomfortable.