Dustin is a BJJ Black Belt…Did it stagnate?

[Garnet_StrongerThanYou]

He has a sub win over a young max Holloway.

He goes for a lot of Guillotines that don’t go anywhere.

He got instasubbed last night and looked like a blue belt on the mat.

 

[DjHnd]

There are levels to black belts and do bronx is on another.

 

[tramendous]

Oliveira's belt is blacker

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Him not initiating a scramble worries me about his jiu jitsu confidence after all these years

I understand Charles woulda most likely advanced position in that event but spending that entire round trying to hold Charles only pumped his arms full of blood for round 3. Charles wa smart to right away go for another TD starting rnd 3z

 

[markys00]

Stagnate?

 

[Corrado Soprano]

Black belts are not the same. They’re like college degrees almost. A master’s degree from Harvard is not the same as a master’s degree from a community college.

 

[Ineededaname]

Poirier has a Blackbelt, Oliveira has a 3rd degree Blackbelt.

 

[Small Town Andrew]

He has a great guillotine choke but I am surprised he is a black belt based on what we have seen in his UFC career

 

[y.91]

He's a Gracie Online Black Belt holder at best.

 

[Horse Style]

He was tired. Those knees to the body and constant pressure from Oliveira drained his gas tank.

 

[TheWave111]

The biggest mistake of Poirier is only trying to hit the head. Oliveira has a high guard. He should have punched him in the body instead of the head. He could have taken all the air out of Oliveira. Poirier was predictable with his punches.
If he had mixed it up he could have faked a body and go for the head for a ko.
It was a very bad performance by Poirier.

 

[Luckyme]

Grappling in a gi - or even without - is not the same as MMA. The entire dynamic changes once strikes are included. How many times have we seen a BJJ world champion not only lose but get submitted? Clay Guida did it the other week and Rodolfo got submitted prior to that.

In a straight grappling match, there would be less disparity between Dustin and Charles’ BJJ. The problem is, the setups required for sweeps and submissions in BJJ don’t work so well when someone is raining down punches on you. A black belt can quickly drop a belt or two down in grappling ability when you factor in strikes.

It also may explain why the Dagestanis who train in Combat Sambo - grappling + strikes - are usually more successful in adapting their grappling to MMA than pure BJJ guys.

 

[Fraz]

Rashad Evans gave Dustin his blackbelt

 

[Deleted member 512089]

Oliveira's belt is blacker

This. It's the blackest black belt in the UFC right now.

 

[mmacool]

He should've kicked the calf to slow down Charles. Charles got the same gamelan like khabib vs poirier.

 

[welcometohavoc]

He has a sub win over a young max Holloway.

He goes for a lot of Guillotines that don’t go anywhere.

He got instasubbed last night and looked like a blue belt on the mat.

Charles's offensive BJJ is second to none. In fact in the past his aggressiveness and willingness to engage actually cost him fights.

As people have mentioned, not all black belts are created equal

 

[Paladin]

He has a sub win over a young max Holloway.

He goes for a lot of Guillotines that don’t go anywhere.

He got instasubbed last night and looked like a blue belt on the mat.

You get better at things you practice. He fell in love with the check hook. Might have also stopped training because the thought he “made it” once he got a black belt

 

[Stalkingsquid]

Dustin's black belt has always been sus I thought

It's just something the broadcasters use to tote him as a complete fighter.

 

[HwoarangStyle]

After getting knocked my conor and Michael Johnson he probably put most of his time and energy into his boxing and his grappling suffered for it

 

[JosephTessaro]

Black belts are not the same. They’re like college degrees almost. A master’s degree from Harvard is not the same as a master’s degree from a community college.

I get what you mean, but I don't think you can get a masters degree from a community college...