Dubai to build world's tallest skyscraper

[MicroBrew]

1st.. I know what ya'll are thinking: " they already have the world's tallest you noob "

They are planning to build an even taller one. Saudi Arabia is building the Kingdom tower to take the crown away from Dubai
http://weburbanist.com/2016/04/13/worlds-tallest-tower-dubai-superstructure-by-santiago-calatrava/

Saudi Kingdom tower is being built by Sheikh Waleed, part owner of Fox News.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/d...p-closer-to-becoming-worlds-tallest-building/

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Thats good. Competition spurs on technological and scientific innovation.

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

I'm voting for Trump. He will make sure we build one that is bigger.

 

[IDL]

They will probably just be using their oil money to hire Western architects and engineers

Build me the biggest penis extension you can and people will flock to see it!

 

[MicroBrew]

Thats good. Competition spurs on technological and scientific innovation.

Maybee I am missing the sarcasm here .., but the actualy design and engineering is by foreigners and the construction is especially by foreigners.

I'm voting for Trump. He will make sure we build one that is bigger.

Cheaper just to knock theirs off when it gets to a certain height.
Even though infidels are not allowed into Mosques in Saudi , thousands of infidels built the nation's mosques. So how did the Saudis overcome this predicament..; they made the infidels build it until it was sometlike 90+ % complete then removed them and let Muslims workers finish it.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Maybee I am missing the sarcasm here .., but the actualy design and engineering is by foreigners and the construction is especially by foreigners.
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what sarcasm? Two countries are outdoing each other on a scientific related project. Just because Americans are not involved does not mean its any less significant. Scientific achievement takes place on a global scale. I like seeing any country doing things like this.

 

[MicroBrew]

what sarcasm? Two countries are outdoing each other on a scientific related project. Just because Americans are not involved does not mean its any less significant. Scientific achievement takes place on a global scale. I like seeing any country doing things like this.

It's a skyscraper dude..., not a revolutionary new form of transport, pharmaceutical invention, space exploration, increased I.C. engine efficiency etc...
All the work and thinking is done by foreigners.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

It's a skyscraper dude..., not a revolutionary new form of transport, pharmaceutical invention, space exploration, increased I.C. engine efficiency etc...
All the work and thinking is done by foreigners.

It could be done by purple people from venus - its still on earth and its impressive.

Skyscrapers of that magnitude require an incredible amount of planning and calculation, it is odd that you discredit it. The structural loading and tuned mass adaptors alone are scientific accomplishments.

 

[Sycho Sid]

Gonna be a lot of dead slave workers. Or whatever term they are going to use for those poor bastards.

 

[MicroBrew]

It could be down by purple people from venus - its still on earth and its impressive.

Skyscrapers of that magnitude require an incredible amount of planning and calculation, it is odd that you discredit it. The structural loading and tuned mass adaptors alone are scientific accomplishments.

I am not discrediting it, I am just keeping it in perspective. In the grand scheme of things ( inventions , discoveries , new processes) a skyscraper is just ho-hum.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I am not discrediting it, I am just keeping it in perspective. In the grand scheme of things ( inventions , discoveries , new processes) a skyscraper is just ho-hum.

That's your opinion, dude.

To many of us, especially engineers - creating structures that are free standing, and that massive - are a pretty significant accomplishment.

 

[Orgasmo]

Heh Dubai, can't wait till the sands reclaim it one day after oil runs out. The place is built on modern slave labor.

 

[MicroBrew]

That's your opinion, dude.

To many of us, especially engineers - creating structures that are free standing, and that massive - are a pretty significant accomplishment.

So you would put these buildings in the same league as an IC engine that is 10-15% more efficient than any current engine. Or claims made for the new mini turbine announced by GE's turbine research arm. Or the new Leukemia treatment that utilizes a person's own immune cells to fight the cancerous cells.

What I am getting at is again not that these super tall skyscrapers aren't impressive from an engineering POV but that in the grand scheme of technological advancement , it isn't all that.
I say " in the grand scheme of things" because your first comment was about how competition spurs technological innovations, but in this context, it is rather underwhelming. If Saudi and UAE were pursuing competing designs or advancing research into less energy intensive desalination processes then I wouldn't argue.

If you want to bring up civil engineering : Ismbard K Brunell and Joseph Bazalgatte were impressive ; becaues of the level to which they advanced the standard of living for people in London , relative to the engineering technology around them and because in Brunel's case he was quite prolific in his inventions and constructions.

 

[MicroBrew]

Heh Dubai, can't wait till the sands reclaim it one day after oil runs out. The place is built on modern slave labor.

Can't wait for them to run out of oil rendering these skyscrapers abandoned because they can't afford to run the AC . Would be fitting symbolism for the Arabs to go back to living in simple abodes under the shadow of these skyscrapers.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

So you would put these buildings in the same league as an IC engine that is 10-15% more efficient than any current engine. Or claims made for the new mini turbine announced by GE's turbine research arm. Or the new Leukemia treatment that utilizes a person's own immune cells to fight the cancerous cells.

What I am getting at is again not that these super tall skyscrapers aren't impressive from an engineering POV but that in the grand scheme of technological advancement , it isn't all that.
I say " in the grand scheme of things" because your first comment was about how competition spurs technological innovations, but in this context, it is rather underwhelming. If Saudi and UAE were pursuing competing designs or advancing research into less energy intensive desalination processes then I wouldn't argue.

If you want to bring up civil engineering : Ismbard K Brunell and Joseph Bazalgatte were impressive ; becaues of the level to which they advanced the standard of living for people in London , relative to the engineering technology around them and because in Brunel's case he was quite prolific in his inventions and constructions.

I said competition between countries spurs on innovation which is great. I didn't say this was a technological break through; but it's on the same line of why competition is great for the sciences.

While I haven't seen the design of the specific buildings in discussion, I would say it's a significant accomplishment.

Not sure why it has to be monumental breakthrough for you to upgrade from ho-hum, but this does rank above things like PW and GE new diffusion processes in heat transfer in their jet engines but less than Lockheeds current process with their Tokamak.

 

[therealdope]

That's your opinion, dude.

To many of us, especially engineers - creating structures that are free standing, and that massive - are a pretty significant accomplishment.

Just getting water up that high and managing sewage drains seems like an engineering feat to me. Think of the pressure drop at each bend/joint. Never mind HVAC.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Just getting water up that high and managing sewage drains seems like an engineering feat to me. Think of the pressure drop at each bend/joint. Never mind HVAC.

I'm still trying to wrap my head on the hydraulics needed to accommodate a tune adapter of that size.

 

[therealdope]

I'm still trying to wrap my head on the hydraulics needed to accommodate a tune adapter of that size.

a 1000m structure. It must be made with independent suspension. Imagine the bending force and shear stress if it was one contiguous solid body.

JMHO but who the fuck has the patience to go and work or live that high up? The elevator ride time alone would drive me bat shit crazy.

 

[Bald1]

a 1000m structure. It must be made with independent suspension. Imagine the bending force and shear stress if it was one contiguous solid body.

JMHO but who the fuck has the patience to go and work or live that high up? The elevator ride time alone would drive me bat shit crazy.

It's also way too high to be taking gay people just to toss them off the roof. Very over complicated execution device imo.

 

[Michaelangelo]

Hopefully Lex Luthor can use it in a future movie