Thread idea was sparked by this http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/rafael-mendes-killing-machine-1244683/ There was a lot of talks of sagittal vs. transverse back-takes, but that's not so much what I'm interested in. This thread will mainly focus on his back takes that involve a kind-of calf cutter/beartrap set-up. There are many variations, but I let's say my opponent is on their knees. I like to shoot the right leg, for example, in between the legs and thread the leg across behind their knee as I roll to my right onto my shoulders, like a Tornado guard (but with a leg threaded inside out, placed behind the knee.) From there, I hold the waist/legs/other control options and sit up. I could bear hug them and lean forward causing a calf cutter, but I don't do that. I look to take the back. It works well too. Some examples from the Mendes'... 0:55. He had the back of the left knee blocked. Not threaded so I guess it's not exactly what I'm talking about. 1:19. Didn't take the back from there, but often does. That's more or less the leg configuration of how I like to take the back. Perfect. Threaded from inside-out. Perfect way to sit up/stand up/transition to the back. 5:12 is a perfect view. Leg threaded through, Leo's left foot on Mende's left hip. Leo can't move forward because a knee is with weight on it, and he can't move to his back, because he could torque his own knee. Rafa jumps up and takes the back. 7:28 has a better view of the back take against Leo that was at 5:12 in the above video. Thoughts? Does anyone hear practice this? Mikey T, don't answer (j/k) because I know you're practicing a lot of Mendes' stuff these days.