But Murray himself only has an English degree. So who the fuck is he to demand only "experts" are allowed to speak?
So you need a PHD in a particular subject to be able to speak about it? Well then he should be quiet himself. Not to mention, a lot of "experts" or historians are ideologically captured and are not operating on good faith. They often have a political agenda too and give slanted takes.
It seems Murray's tactic to win arguments is through sheer condescension and insults and relies on his English accent to give him an air of credibility.
I'm personally not a fan of trying to gatekeep who can and cannot talk about a certain subject based on their "credentials." Instead argue a position based on the merits of the arguments put forward.
Ah, yes. This is the kind of hypocrisy that I'd grown accustomed to and come to appreciate from a high functioning, undiagnosed psychopath who is also most likely suffering from a mild to moderate case of retardation and retrograde amnesia.
At this point, I find it no longer comical, but rather sad and disappointing to see you employ the same kind of ad hominem attack that you whined and bitched about when being on the receiving end of them in the past. I guess I'll just have to accept the fact that some things will never change.
Just kidding. I still find it comical today. Feel sad for a POS like you? Lmfao. Get real.
Okay, that's enough ad hominem attacks from me. Let's get to the crux of my message: Attack the man's arguments and not the man. You've contradicted yourself and undermined your own argument with the following statement:
I'm personally not a fan of trying to gatekeep who can and cannot talk about a certain subject based on their "credentials." Instead argue a position based on the merits of the arguments put forward.
So what exactly does Murray's accent have to do with his message? Are you seriously going to dismiss him and his arguments because you think he's a condescending prick who uses his posh accent to deceive his audience and not because of his qualifications (or lack thereof)? Fucking hypocrite. "Oh, I don't care if he's right. I feel that he's unnecessarily mean to others, and that should disqualify him from speaking on this matter." Well, fuck your feelings too, pussy.
I've seen many videos of Murray's debates, and do you know what's wrong with him? I don't think he's condescending enough. If I had to deal with the same room temperature IQ troglodytes like Murray did in those videos, I'd do my damnedest to convince my opponents that their opinions are absolutely retarded and their existence on this planet as a whole worthless. But that's just me. Oh wait, speak of the Devil. I just realized I'm responding to a room temperature IQ troglodyte right now...
What's wrong with his accent? Do you have a problem with his Received Pronunciation aka BBC/posh accent? It's considered the gold standard for broadcasting. Would you rather listen to him speak like a recent stroke victim with a fucked up Cockney accent or like a Scouser with a severe stuttering problem? Will that help change your perception of his character and his arguments? Or perhaps he will get more street cred if he spoke unintelligibly to the point where subtitles are needed at the bottom of the screen?
Or are you the type of classist/racist idiot who criticize non-white Americans like me for sounding "too white?"
Right, so you believe that Douglas Murray built a reputation for himself as an expert and won debates merely with just his snide attitude and insults. Let's just conveniently set aside the fact that his primary occupation is journalism and political commentary. Yeah, he's got no fucking right to lecture career hack comedians and fringe conspiracy theory nutjobs like Dave Smith and Ian Carrol on the topic of Israel and the current war in Gaza, despite the fact that he's been covering and has written extensively about the multitude of conflicts between Israel and Gaza since 2014 as an independent journalist and war correspondent, visited the kibbutzim that were destroyed on October 7th, and visited Gaza twice and Israel multiple times.
No, of course not. We must give more weight to the ramblings of a podcaster and a hack comedian who tells dick jokes for a living. Nevermind the fact that said hack comedian has already, by his own admission on the same podcast, professed to the audience that he is not an expert on this matter.
Also, what the fuck does Murray's degree have to do with his argument in question? He's a journalist. As a member of his audience, do you think I give a damn about his English degree from Oxford whenever I hear him speak about a subject in which he's more than qualified to speak about? Remember the late Pete Jennings, the television journalist on ABC? That dude was a high school dropout. You think people gave a damn about his lack of HS diploma every time he was covering a world event?
Anyway, enough about you and your self-contradicting and hypocritical arguments, Ho Brain. Allow me to finally toss my two cents on this subject:
I recall Dave Smith and Joe Rogan contend to Douglas Murray in the podcast that we live in a democracy, and therefore we have the right to let people share their ideas, unfettered by any form of censorship. Fair enough; it's a right that's protected by the First Amendment. In a democracy, we also have the right to publicly challenge and debunk false claims made by fraudsters and unscrupulous, bad actors, and privately owned social media companies have the right to de-platform said fraudsters and unscrupulous, bad actors if they violate their policies regarding disseminating false/dangerous statements and ideas to the public. As a democracy, we should be happy to see idiots like Alex Jones and racist, supremacist shitheads like Nick Fuentes, Richard Spencer, and Louis Farrakhan be de-platformed to prevent dissemination of ideas that serve no purpose other than to sow mass confusion and chaos in a society that's already volatile as it is with current politics. Is there any reason why we should be introducing these sparks to a powdered keg on purpose?
We live in a digital age where every statement and claim can be fact-checked in a matter of seconds. There's no excuse for Joe for not thoroughly vet his guests before giving them a platform or to willingly give bad actors a platform on his show. I'd been following this dude since the Redban days - I was training by day, and smoking weed listening to JRE podcast by night, all day - and now I'm just fucking utterly disgusted by how shitty the podcast has gotten recently. The show clearly jumped the shark when he started hosting these dumbass, smarmy CT nutjobs and history revisionists like Ian Carroll and Darryl Cooper. I was rooting for Joe during his feud with Carlos Mencia in the early days, and I'd always found his politically incorrect commentaries on the UFC and his podcasts to be refreshing. Now I can see all that fame, money, and DMT seriously fried his brain and integrity. If he continues to irresponsibly give a platform to these fucking weirdos, then perhaps it's time for Spotify, Youtube, et al. to give his podcast the ax and stop this festering tumor from turning into a full-blown cancer.
