Double Champs are Frauds

[LeBron]

Going up in weight and winning 1 match doesn’t make you a champion of that division. To be a champ of a division you need to have had multiple fights and work your way up the rankings to a title shot. Or if you move up and win a title fight, you should defend it multiple times to show that you’re actually the best in the division you moved up to.

If the Clemson college football team played the KC Chiefs and won, does it make them the champion of the NFL? No. This new gimmick in MMA is a joke and should have no impact on GOAT status.

 

[Londonjitsu]

Nunes isn't a fraud

 

[Beherit]

Beating Jan blachowicz = GOAT status

deal with it.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Absolutely unless they defend both belts

 

[Wreckless]

GSP is the GOAT MW because he was the champ and never defeated in that division.

Deal with it.

 

[Jojomojo]

its a stupid gimmick i agree. Its obv still an accomplishment, but the UFC pushing so hard for it is stupid imo. Izzy would feel a lot different about moving up, if he had to fight Jiri, Reyes and Santos before facing Jan.

 

[erron]

GSP is the GOAT MW because he was the champ and never defeated in that division.

Deal with it.

WW/MW GOAT/thread

 

[Jose Beehive]

Just another "unwritten rule" that's not really true..

 

[Perrichet]

Better than not doing it at all. The ones who haven’t are bigger frauds

 

[Jojomojo]

Better than not doing it at all. The ones who haven’t are bigger frauds

Explain?

 

[accolyte1022]

LeBron always stirring up trouble.

 

[Sam's UFC title reign]

Yeah I agree. It allows champions to avoid actually fighting the deeper ranks within the division. Like Conor was able to call himself lightweight champion without fighting Tony Khabib or any of the killers in the division.

 

[Perrichet]

Explain?

Being a double champ is better than not being one.

Did this really need explaining?

 

[LFAHFN22]

I completely agree. Winning a second division is meaningless unless you are able to accomplish anything significant during your reign. I ask for at least one defense, the bare minimum, against a number one contender.

St-Pierre beat arguably the worst middleweight champion of the past decade and refused to defend his championship. It would have been far more impressive to have defended against Whittaker. Similarly, Conor failed to defend either of his belts. Does it really count as a reign if it went undefended?

 

[SG123]

Going up in weight and winning 1 match doesn’t make you a champion of that division. To be a champ of a division you need to have had multiple fights and work your way up the rankings to a title shot. Or if you move up and win a title fight, you should defend it multiple times to show that you’re actually the best in the division you moved up to.

If the Clemson college football team played the KC Chiefs and won, does it make them the champion of the NFL? No. This new gimmick in MMA is a joke and should have no impact on GOAT status.

If Khabib wanted to go up to WW he should face guys ranked outside of the top 20. I’d want to see 4/5 fights before he even faced top 10. If he got to 10-0 then he would have earned his title shot.

It’s only fair. And logical.

 

[SG123]

Nunes isn't a fraud

She technically is, in for far as she’s P4P ranked. And they’ve convinced a lot of people she’s good relative to men

 

[Jose Beehive]

Masvidal hasn't defended his Bad Mo Fo belt in ages either, can he really claim to be a Bad Mo Fo?

 

[Willie]

Completly agree, it has become a marketing gimmick to please the casuals and gain leverage.

What happened to stay in your lane and prove yourself in your division first ?

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Going up in weight and winning 1 match doesn’t make you a champion of that division. To be a champ of a division you need to have had multiple fights and work your way up the rankings to a title shot. Or if you move up and win a title fight, you should defend it multiple times to show that you’re actually the best in the division you moved up to.

If the Clemson college football team played the KC Chiefs and won, does it make them the champion of the NFL? No. This new gimmick in MMA is a joke and should have no impact on GOAT status.

Ive always said your never a true champion till you defend your title...

When you Fight\win the belt you dont become a champion, as your introduced as the challenger.. Your not introduced as champion till your next fight...

Therefore you dont actually become champion till you actively defend your belt...wining the belt only gives you a chance start your title reign

 

[Jojomojo]

Being a double champ is better than not being one.

Did this really need explaining?

I think you missed the point. How does not being a double champ make you a fraud? You are obviously the champ of your division.