Don't say Okami would've never gotten another title fight

Don't forget Wand for losing back to back and soon was considered to be a UFC washout only to return and start winning again.

Okami was on 3-1 run doing well. He always comes back on a win streak. So he lost to Jacare another Top fighter its not like he is losing to scrubs.

The man is fighting top level MW competition you're going to win some and lose some. But to cut him is fuckin moronic! Go cut your boy GSP or Frank Mur for being boring while you're at it!
 
I heard enough of this complaining, he got cut. Get over it man, he really wasn't that exciting but I would have like to see him in the UFC still. What is done, is done. No one is gonna miss the guy after a couple weeks or even remember who he was.
 
Yaka Flocka said:
When you're making more money than a lot of the fighters below you and you're not winning and not being exciting, you will probably get cut. That's why Jon Fitch was cut and that's why Yushin Okami was cut, despite both of them being top 20 fighters at the time of the cut.
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Okami is getting paid on food stamps probably one of lowest paid highly ranked UFC fighter on the roster. Hector Lombard gets paid $300,000 per fight whereas Okami only recieves $40,000 just to show up and Okami beat that man too!

Money is not the problem Okami's contract is affordable. The UFC is just full of shit these days.

I think there is nearly 56 UFC MWs on the roster and Dana chose that one guy to cut man just fuck him. Say good bye to Korea/Japan market just saying.
 
Ferlyn said:
That's not a good justification for him getting cut, it's speculation.

Crazier things have happened. Hunt lost 3 in a row, including a loss to McCorkle and 2 years later, he was fighting JDS for #1 contender.
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Whoa whoa whoa. Hunt was a huge puncher with no grappling skills that eventually learned how to defensively grapple so that he could compete in MMA.

Are we suggesting that at some point Okami was going to learn how to be a huge puncher?
 
Cygnus-X said:
That's not what I meant and you're getting overly specific if you want real examples.

What I meant is that if you think every single talented athlete gets a fair chance to show his greatness you're sorely mistaken. There's politics in every sport that keeps guys down.

MMA is a legitimate sport and has been for quite some time. It's not a debate. It's over. Every time someone brings this up you just signal your retardation to the world.
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LOL! way to completely side step the argument. that's cute.
 
Also while we're on the subject of cut fighters, can anybody explain why Roger Gracie fought only once in the UFC and was then cut right after he lost?
 
Ring Shark98 said:
I hate the "boring" argument. As a legitimate sport, it doesn't matter if something is boring or not. If he's winning or still has potential, he belongs in there.

If boring is the reason he was cut, then that migrates mma towards entertainment and away from legitimate sport.
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Who says MMA is a legitimate sport? It is about entertainment.
 
Yaka Flocka said:
Also while we're on the subject of cut fighters, can anybody explain why Roger Gracie fought only once in the UFC and was then cut right after he lost?
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because he sucks
 
Boring and dominant is one thing, boring and less than .500 against top opponents, and having already lost a title fight... yeah
 
He's too expensive, too boring and have derailed too many hype trains for him to be worth keeping around.
 
thobra said:
Who says MMA is a legitimate sport? It is about entertainment.
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This is the argument of fools. Sports organizations that don't entertain, don't make money. If MMA isn't a legitimate sport because it makess decisions based on entertainment, then no professional sports organization is legitimate.

Gotta sell product to pay the bills. Even the Olympics is a big budget entertainment organization. Do you think there's prime-time coverage of curling? :icon_lol: And even the Olympics knows they wouldn't be able to sell that shit more than once every four years. People get excited about the Olympics because of the scarcity. The world talks about the opening ceremonies for days.

Sports and entertainment are synonymous when we're talking about something that becomes a commercialized product. The UFC making moves based on marketabiity doesn't de-legitimize it as a sport.
 
Too many people using the 'boring' excuse. First off, there are much more 'boring' fighters in the UFC then Yushin Okami. Secondly, lets say Okami was just absolutely un-watchable, that shouldn't matter. As the premier MMA org. in the world, the UFC should focus on legitimate talent over guys that just aren't very skilled that just go out there to brawl. I would rather watch a Yushin Okami fight over a Akiyama or Uriah Hall fight. The UFC is just losing legitimacy by letting fighters like Okami go. Their little 'the best fighters in the world fight for the UFC' quote is starting to become untrue.
 
MikeLovesTacosX said:
Too many people using the 'boring' excuse. First off, there are much more 'boring' fighters in the UFC then Yushin Okami. Secondly, lets say Okami was just absolutely un-watchable, that shouldn't matter. As the premier MMA org. in the world, the UFC should focus on legitimate talent over guys that just aren't very skilled that just go out there to brawl. I would rather watch a Yushin Okami fight over a Akiyama or Uriah Hall fight. The UFC is just losing legitimacy by letting fighters like Okami go. Their little 'the best fighters in the world fight for the UFC' quote is starting to become untrue.
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If he'd been constantly winning most of the big fights your argument would be valid.
he beat lombard, belcher, marquardt and munoz, but lost to jacare, boetsch, silva, sonnen, and franklin

He's a good fighter, but he had his shot, it's not like the UFC is cutting a burgeoning contender
 
I believe a lot of the things done the last few years make it less legitimate, but I think the fans don't care. I loved Edgar getting a shot at Aldo, Even after 2 losses.
 
I feel sorry for Okami,he is not the most entertaining fighter ever,but is a good,solid top 10 fighter.I sometimes think Dana knows more about certain fighters than he lets on.
 
grooves12 said:
Yep, and if he won he would still be around... but he lost and falls down the rungs a bit.

Dana doesn't want boring champions... people seem to forget that an undefeated Machida was getting passed over for a title shot he probably deserved because fans hated his style. It wasn't until he started KO'ing people that his stock rose (with fans and the UFC) and he finally got his shot.
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OR, he had to work his way up the ladder like most fighters. I mean, if his title shot was earned off the back of all his KO's then it must only take 1 because that's all he had in the UFC prior to getting his shot. I'm thinking his lack of an earlier title shot had more to do with him fighting guy's like David Heath, Kaz Nakamura, and Sam Hoger.
 
bicpup269 said:
He's too expensive, too boring and have derailed too many hype trains for him to be worth keeping around.
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Proof positive that avoiding the sucking of the life of any org supersedes any fighters best interest such as fighting safe, measured battles, usually winning, and in the process boring people and neutralizing exiting fighters who are there just to stand and bang (and get seats in the crowd) - record irrespective.

Such as the life of business and making money. Fitch now Okami; hey it's a good way to subtextually let fighters know they need to evolve like the rest of modern MMA.

Back then MMA stood for one Martial Art specialist vs another Martial Art specialist, henced the Mixed - I reckon.

Now it stands for the Mixing of the Martial Arts per individual to elevate their potential to the highest order.
 
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Calm down, Okami will back as soon the UFC put on a Japan event.
 
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