Media Donn Davis responds to criticism of Bellator champions not being able to get fights: "What is your point clown"

careto said:
Leave it to PFL to acquire a company with legitimate top 5-10 fighters and manage to put less events with less quality.
Click to expand...

I always wondered if behind the scenes PFL was just shocked they acquired Bellator for basically some corporate stock in company not making money. In other words, almost free.

There was time it sounded as if Paramount/Viacom was seriously shopping the product for real money. After months of that there was rumors that PFL was more or less out of the bidding. Then later on came back in. I'm guessing any serious buyer just gave up/lost interest or whatever. Then PFL came back and offered the corporate stock offer and by then Paramount just wanted out and took it as a gamble.

Either way it still amazes me to this day they haven't fixed the problems. Donn can't even understand that it isn't the fighters not wanting to be there, they just want answers and direction. Many of them are just frustrated with basically nothing happening.
 
DougieJones said:
c'mon dude when's the last time the UFC pulled anything close to the shit PFL does?
Click to expand...
UFC is smart. They have NDC’s in their contracts. Everyone has heard fighter stories how because they turned down a particular fight, they basically got frozen out for a while. Stories of fights getting announced when they haven’t been agreed to, in order to pressure one or both fighters to hurry up and sign a bum deal. When UFC acquired Pride, Mark Hunt had to please to be able to finish his contract; UFC didn’t want to use him
 
DougieJones said:
c'mon dude when's the last time the UFC pulled anything close to the shit PFL does?
Click to expand...
Not giving fighters real fights to hold onto their contract? They've always done that. Their most popular fighter of all time, Connor McGregor, isn't even exempt from that. They pretend he's going to fight at "the end of the year" every year precisely so they can keep hold of him.


UFC and PFL have the same type of exclusive contracts. Why wouldn't the UFC do the same thing the PFL does? Goodness of their hearts?
 
Doctor Grudge said:
Not giving fighters real fights to hold onto their contract? They've always done that. Their most popular fighter of all time, Connor McGregor, isn't even exempt from that. They pretend he's going to fight at "the end of the year" every year precisely so they can keep hold of him.


UFC and PFL have the same type of exclusive contracts. Why wouldn't the UFC do the same thing the PFL does? Goodness of their hearts?
Click to expand...

Lot of assumptions and false equivalences. How do you know they aren't giving Conor fights just to told on to him? Pretty sure it's been on CONOR that he hasn't fought. Chandler waited 2 fucking years for him to sign.

REAL fights? What does that even mean? The PFL aren't giving them ANY fights, so again don't see what your point is
 
DougieJones said:
Lot of assumptions and false equivalences. How do you know they aren't giving Conor fights just to told on to him? Pretty sure it's been on CONOR that he hasn't fought. Chandler waited 2 fucking years for him to sign.

REAL fights? What does that even mean? The PFL aren't giving them ANY fights, so again don't see what your point is
Click to expand...
:D what a UFC apologist "it's different when they do it"

Conor himself has asked for his release publicly many times to get on with fighting elsewhere. But sure pretend he's not fighting at all on him, he's also said he didn't care about fighting Chandler yet just like Diaz THAT'S the only fight they're offering for the benefit of the other guy.
Conor will die before the UFC let's him out of their exclusive contract.
 
Mmmmmmma1234 said:
:D what a UFC apologist "it's different when they do it"

Conor himself has asked for his release publicly many times to get on with fighting elsewhere. But sure pretend he's not fighting at all on him, he's also said he didn't care about fighting Chandler yet just like Diaz THAT'S the only fight they're offering for the benefit of the other guy.
Conor will die before the UFC let's him out of their exclusive contract.
Click to expand...

They're offering him fights though, he's just not interested in them. He can have a fight whenever he wants one.
 
Mmmmmmma1234 said:
:D what a UFC apologist "it's different when they do it"

Conor himself has asked for his release publicly many times to get on with fighting elsewhere. But sure pretend he's not fighting at all on him, he's also said he didn't care about fighting Chandler yet just like Diaz THAT'S the only fight they're offering for the benefit of the other guy.
Conor will die before the UFC let's him out of their exclusive contract.
Click to expand...

You being retarded and not grasping the differences between his situation and someone like McKee/Moose/Pico doesn't make someone a "UFC apologist"

The rest is just so stupid and off-base it's not worth even responding to
 
Last edited:
Hellowhosthat said:
They're offering him fights though, he's just not interested in them. He can have a fight whenever he wants one.
Click to expand...
That's just a blatant lie. Dana has publicly stated on several occasions Conor can't fight xyz date because the UFC needs more time to promote it.
 
DougieJones said:
You being retarded and not grasping the differences between his situation and someone like McKee/Moose/Pico doesn't make someone a "UFC apologist"

The rest is just so stupid and off-base it's worth even responding to
Click to expand...
No you're just stupidly holding on to some belief that the UFC has not done this with many fighter in Very similar situations now you need to say "it's not an exact 1/1 situation" like that makes it better.
 
Mmmmmmma1234 said:
That's just a blatant lie. Dana has publicly stated on several occasions Conor can't fight xyz date because the UFC needs more time to promote it.
Click to expand...
Not true Dana said over and over again he thinks Conor is done he made his money. But he keeps offering Conor fights anyone as want him to fight more he is a star. But Conor keeps agreeing and other stuff keep coming up like movie promos and now running for office. Dana never said he needs time to promote any Conor fight. Though I do remember him once saying he would like Conor to have a full fight camp and be ready and his other duties keep interfering with them. Though I remember reporters showing Dana of drunk Conor when he was supposed to be training. Dana wasn't happy he said because he considers Conor a friend. But Conor can get out of ufc anytime he wants no one will pay like Dana for him. But if he bare knuckle boxes he still we need to do a full camp and he never seems to have the time for that
 
McGregor is not in the NewSADA pool since his toe injury
I don't think the UFC is legally bound to offer him fights
 
For the better informed:

Whats the main problem why cant people get fights? All Ive seen is unhappy fighters and people saying they cant get fights because pfl is clown show. But why are they clown show? Whats the actual reason?
 
sonhow said:
For the better informed:

Whats the main problem why cant people get fights? All Ive seen is unhappy fighters and people saying they cant get fights because pfl is clown show. But why are they clown show? Whats the actual reason?
Click to expand...

I suspect they're running out of money at the moment. It's a lot of the more expensive fighters that seem to be having issues getting booked.
 
sonhow said:
For the better informed:

Whats the main problem why cant people get fights? All Ive seen is unhappy fighters and people saying they cant get fights because pfl is clown show. But why are they clown show? Whats the actual reason?
Click to expand...
1- Reduced number of events and, thus, reduced number of fights (Bellator used to have 15-20 events + 10 for PFL vs roughly 10 + 5 in Europe and + 5 MENA-specific now)
2- Roster is less US-oriented (half of PFL events are based in Europe or the Middle East)
3- Budget for fighters' purse should be rather the same while they acquired better fighters (I think there were more Bellator fighters with 6-figure pay than PFL's, and the merger didn't lead to higher revenues per event to pay more highly-paid fighters)
4- Some Bellator contracts were insane (It looks like guys like Mousasi just signed a new contract with 5+ fights and a high purse while he was not going to be the future of the organisation)

TLDR: PFL acquired a roster of good, well-known, and well-paid fighters, but continues to run operations like an organisation focused on a few stars for Europe and the Middle East, and a bunch of local no-names
 
PFL has horrible staff... events are run too long and often cancelled. I think it is a case of 'too many cooks in the kitchen' too many there that think they know what they are doing clashing with others, cannot keep their investors happy. They got lots of money with these big name signings and a vision of taking over the world which worked but their expand expand expand rhetoric has led to mass confusion and prioritizing fighters from these regions (MENA...) over these big names has led to a traffic jam of no movement no fights for the stars.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

TheBrownRanger
RUMOR: Bellator Champions Series 8 will be in Saitama Super Arena (Tokyo, Japan)
2
Replies
30
Views
2K
JayPettryMMA
JayPettryMMA

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,262,969
Messages
57,200,076
Members
175,577
Latest member
Loser

Share this page

Back
Top