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donald trump is surging

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  1. sir loin

    sir loin Banned Banned

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    That's awesome. Bring all our country's demons right up to the forefront so we can all decide together whether we still want them or not.
     
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    the things he does that people think will ruin him, just makes people like him more. for example telling that whiny bitch who was angry that he said "anchor baby" to go stuff it was gold. people are getting tired of the pc police telling them what to say and do. if he gets the nomination, it would be funny to watch the left lose their shit when he doesnt give a damn about what they say.

    and you guys keep laughing and saying you hope he gets nominated, be careful what you wish for. hillary proves every day more and more how horrible of a candidate she is.

    that said, trump isnt my choice as president, but i certainly enjoy watching him do his thing
     
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    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    Perry, Santorum, Giuliani and others have all led for longer. There's really no reason at this point to think that Trump is more likely than any of them (way less than Perry, actually) to win the nomination.

    To be honest, he's not really any worse than the other Republican candidates, but they at least pretend to be basing their campaigns on something other than white identity politics.
     
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    Good. #FeelTheBern
     
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    Good. Trump is Trump, but even at his worst, he's still infinitely better than the best the left has to spew on us.
     
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    I wouldnt compare him to those guys. He wont try to defund planned parenthood or even out law abortion. He wont try to fight gay rights. Those are 2 huge differences.

    As far as what he is running on well he has been more specific than the others hasnt he ? Not just on immigration as everyone is parroting. Trade deals,veterans benefits,healthcare,middle east. He has spoken as much on those topics as anyone in either party so far. Its too early to expect anyone of them to go into great detail. Saying that he is running only on white identity politics is just dishonest and sounds a lot like the MSM trying to trash him.

    I agree that he is not any worse than other repubs right now, actually wouldnt anyone on the left prefer him to the others due to his stance on planned parenthood and gay rights ? Those have been two issues holding repubs back for awhile now and he is smart to come out of the dark ages on those issues.

    And in the end if he gets the nomination i dont see any current dem beating him. Certainly not 100yr old socialist Bernie. And hilary is losing ground daily
     
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    It's infinitely interesting watching the political Right in the USA's reaction to Trump. With some saying he was clearly more of a Democrat supporter based on social circles and such who simply chose to run Republican because the field was significantly easier without any clear favourite and with a party base of supporters who were more willing to accept him, others saying he's a Democratic "plant" or part of a conspiracy to ensure Democrats win the upcoming election, and still others who accept him as a "Republican" but reject him as a possible candidate for a variety of reasons.

    Especially in the beginning, Trump had put forth very little (almost nothing) of what he stood for or what he planned to do or anything other than attaching his brand (his name) to the campaign, and yet supporters from the Right chose him as 'their guy' almost immediately.

    I assume they simply associated 'businessman' and 'successful' from his brand and felt it matched the parties general platform, and with him saying little of his actual positions, his supporters simply choose to associate whatever Conervative stances they (or that they feel the party) stand for.
     
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    There is a difference between being politically incorrect with political statements you make, and simply making crude epithets.

    Like, Trump just insults people, and claims it's because "the country is in danger and he doesn't have the time to be nice!" or some bullshit, and the inbreds lap it up and cheer for that statement like he just announced he cured cancer or something.

    "Yeah! No more manners, Cleetus!"
     
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    And many of the things he has gone into specifically are completely untenable. Like, he's going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. Or deport 12 million people.

    It's not stuff that is going to be implemented, and I think even a lot of his supporters realize that, but they just like hearing him say it.
     
  11. Sohei

    Sohei Manning the air

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    How is Trump a 'successful businessman' if hes declared bankruptcy 4X?
     
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    HelloJapan Talking loud and saying nothing. Platinum Member

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    He looks presidential...

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    10 billion .. even if he's filed for bankruptcy .. the fact that he's worth 10 billion makes him a resounding success(to say the least) .. he obviously learned from it and recovered fantastically .. and the last time he had to file was in the 90s ? .. so he knows how to get out of a hole
     
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    Building a wall is absolutely possible. Making Mexico pay for it one way or another is absolutely possible. Im not sure why some people think these things just cant be done. Maybe its because you have been lied to for so long about how possible stopping illegal immigration is. Its obvious that for a long time neither party has made a legitimate effort because they both benefit from it.

    As far as his language, he hasnt really said anything outrageous as has been reported. Sure he doesnt have a political filter, but do we want that anymore ? Do we want a president who panders to every special groups feelings while ignoring what is good for the country ? Who is afraid to say the truth for fear of political fallout ?
     
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    Confronted with his past donations to Hillary Clinton, Trump explained that he was just trying to buy influence over her:

    "With Hillary, I said be at my wedding. And she came to my wedding. She had no choice."

    sounds like the right guy for the job. definitely a solution to the problem w/what lobbyists do and whatnot.
     
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    Sycho Sid Master of the world and the universe

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    Better to be your own special interest?
     
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    apparently ALOT of people think so. i, for one, am not one of those. but hey, he's got "swagger" so lets vote for him.
     
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    That's only true for Rudy Giuliani in 2008.

    Trump took his first polling lead in the middle of July in a USAT/Suffolk poll (7/9-7/12) and hasn't relinquished it since. That's 15 consecutive polls over a period of five to six weeks.

    Rick Perry led in 2012 for about the same number of weeks and 17 consecutive polls. Trump will eclipse him in a week.

    Santorum never led for more than eight polls in a row over a period of less than a month.

    *****

    Trump has two advantages Giuliani and Perry did not have. His lead has come while he was campaigning. Giuliani and Perry both initially took polling leads before they ever hit the campaign trail. They were better candidates when not running. Trump took his lead because of his campaigning.

    The other advantage is money. Trump is not reliant on big donors.
     
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    American politics...

    What a joke.
     
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    I'm kind of surprised that he's having so much success with Republicans considering that he's isn't very much of a conservative on most issues, just goes to show that it isn't what you say it's how you say it.
     

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