Dominick Cruz GOAT

sidecheckkick said:
Not for me. GSP fought like a pussy and that's how most people remembered him. There's fight fans and then there's sport fans like you who only care about winning.
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SMH.
Gsp and the word pussy (not the lady parts kind) used in the same sentence... May Mark Hunt's fist strike your feeble minded ass down.

I do love how people make up shit on how to establish GOATs. Apparently you need to be an invincible god, ending all of your fights in flawless victories to be considered a great. You realize that they aren't fighting bums? The fights ideally SHOULD be tough fights if they're at the championship level.
 
BigMuffler said:
Good lord the term 'dominant champ' is overused. You're not a dominant champ if you've only beaten 1 elite fighter in your career. I'm a Weidman fan and Weidman wasn't even a real dominant champ.

Flash in the pan champ - 0-1 defenses
Good champ - 2-3 defenses
Dominant champ - 4 or more defenses

Generally speaking, but even 4 defenses might not be a dominant champ if some were against the same opponent or unconvincing. And yes this means some divisions have never ever had a dominant champion.
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TJ finished the fight in all three title fights in a VERY dominant fashion. TJ was a dominant champ and p4p #3 in my list until he fall victim to judges who didn't know how to properly score a fight.
 
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SmilinDesperado said:
SMH.
Gsp and the word pussy (not the lady parts kind) used in the same sentence... May Mark Hunt's fist strike your feeble minded ass down.

I do love how people make up shit on how to establish GOATs. Apparently you need to be an invincible god, ending all of your fights in flawless victories to be considered a great. You realize that they aren't fighting bums? The fights ideally SHOULD be tough fights if they're at the championship level.
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All of his best wins are flyweights.
He rarely has a dominant victory.
He very rarely finishes.
His last fight could have gone either way.

He is a great fighter but he is far behind the greats like Bones, GSP, Anderson, Aldo and Fedor.

All had dominant win streaks reigning for many years.

Dominick is not even close.
 
milenss said:
TJ finished the fight in all three title defences in a VERY dominant fashion. TJ was a dominant champ and p4p #3 in my list until he fall victim to judges who didn't know how to properly score a fight.
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Hell no he wasn't a dominant champ, it was 2 defenses, one was against a late replacement who wasn't even ranked and he has only beaten ONE elite fighter ever in Barao. By this standard Cain was also a dominant champ which he absolutely wasn't, the term 'dominant champion' is completely meaningless if beating one elite fighter twice and having 2 title defenses is all it takes to be considered one.
 
Technique wise, he is absolutely at the top of the mountain with just a few other people.
 
milenss said:
If by most you mean half... maybe...
As far as I know most pro-fighters gave it to TJ.
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Proof? Probably Elevation but that's about it, anybody I saw who wasn't with the same gym scored it for Cruz.
 
legkicktko said:
Split decision with a large amount of the mma community siding with TJ and that's outclassing?
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The split decision didn't prove that it was a close fight, it proved that one of those judges didn't know what the fuck he was doing. Clear win for Dom.
 
milenss said:
TJ finished the fight in all three title fights in a VERY dominant fashion. TJ was a dominant champ and p4p #3 in my list until he fall victim to judges who didn't know how to properly score a fight.
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How retarded are you? Dom very very clearly won that fight.
 
El chapo Jr. said:
Proof? Probably Elevation but that's about it, anybody I saw who wasn't with the same gym scored it for Cruz.
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What do you think? That I have saved tons of proof materials on my computer that TJ won that fight? I've written a lot. If you want to read, find my history. Just on top of my head - Rafael dos Anjos, Jon Bon Jones, Josh Barnett, Kenny Florian... I'm not going to dig again to find information for you and other ignorant people.
 
milenss said:
What do you think? That I have saved tons of proof materials on my computer that TJ won that fight? I've written a lot. If you want to read, find my history. Just on top of my head - Rafael dos Anjos, Jon Bon Jones, Josh Barnett, Kenny Florian... I'm not going to dig again to find information for you and other ignorant people.
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I know for a fact KenFlo didn't say that because I listen to his podcast on a weekly basis, if you're lying about him you're probably lying about the rest. Chael, Paige, Faber, Helwani, Ray Longo & Kenflo are the ones I remember off the top of my head but there were plenty more. Chael said he had boxing analysts calling him to say Cruz was taking TJ to school in terms of footwork & hand speed.
 
El chapo Jr. said:
I know for a fact KenFlo didn't say that because I listen to his podcast on a weekly basis, if you're lying about him you're probably lying about the rest. Chael, Paige, Faber, Helwani, Ray Longo & Kenflo are the ones I remember off the top of my head but there were plenty more. Chael said he had boxing analysts calling him to say Cruz was taking TJ to school in terms of footwork & hand speed.
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Footwork is not a scoring criteria. It's not dancing with the stars.
Hand speed is not a scoring criteria. It's not a fast food buffet.

And I lied about everything. Nobody scored that fight for TJ indeed. Only me. Because I live in delusion.
 
milenss said:
Footwork is not a scoring criteria. It's not dancing with the stars.
Hand speed is not a scoring criteria. It's not a fast food buffet.

And I lied about everything. Nobody scored that fight for TJ indeed. Only me. Because I live in delusion.
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Just as I thought.
 
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