does this happen to you when you roll??

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This usually happens when i go against near my skill lvl around 75% or someone who is better than me allows me to "flow" and takes it easy on me. Basically it happens when i "flow" with someone. When i roll this way, i do stuff that i never learned or saw before, i am not saying that i am making something up or that i am doing anything great. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. But i do get them saying (even higher belts than myself) "how did you do that sweep from the so and so position" and i swear to god i don't remember how i did it or i have to think hard to remember what i did. It's almost like i'm high of jiu jitus (like smoking weed).
 
We sometimes roll like this on purpose in class, its kind of one-and-one...what i mean is you do a move then he does a move and you just try to do transtitions and counters but never really using any strength. i know what you mean and it really feels good when everything is a little slower and a whole world opens up. however, you have to do it with someone who knows what theyre doing otherwise they just end up rolling all out while youre trying to focus on technique.
 
its just you body senses when their balance is weak in certain way or directions. It just comes from experience.. an anyone who has been rolling awhile it happens to.

Youll pull stuff off in the heat of the moment because it felt like the right thing to do.
 
anaconda said:
We sometimes roll like this on purpose in class, its kind of one-and-one...what i mean is you do a move then he does a move and you just try to do transtitions and counters but never really using any strength. i know what you mean and it really feels good when everything is a little slower and a whole world opens up. however, you have to do it with someone who knows what theyre doing otherwise they just end up rolling fill out while youre trying to focus on technique.
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We just started doing this like..last week. I really enjoy it for the same reasons you listed. It really allows me to work my escapes and top position which I need lots of work on.
 
Happens quite a bit. I've written descriptions about matches before (in my log), and then later see the video and my recollections never accurate. I had my coach tell me after a match that I went for too many tomoe nage's and I told him he was wrong, I never went for a single one. It's not even a throw I like. When I watched the vid I had dropped for 3 tomoe nages during the match...
I zone out pretty bad.
I'm amazed when people on forums can describe each move they did and how they set it up in a tournament, or even just rolling around. Aesopian comes to mind. My brain just doesn't process and compile that way.
 
blanko said:
This usually happens when i go against near my skill lvl around 75% or someone who is better than me allows me to "flow" and takes it easy on me. Basically it happens when i "flow" with someone. When i roll this way, i do stuff that i never learned or saw before, i am not saying that i am making something up or that i am doing anything great. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. But i do get them saying (even higher belts than myself) "how did you do that sweep from the so and so position" and i swear to god i don't remember how i did it or i have to think hard to remember what i did. It's almost like i'm high of jiu jitus (like smoking weed).
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Happens all the time. Always happens when I wrestle too. I've always been somewhat of a funky grappler- flexible, long arms, alot of explosiveness in my hips and some very good balance, so I have always been the type of guy who creates unorthodox positions off of scrambles and executes non-text book moves. I was the kind of wrestler in high school and college that the coaches would often just shrug their shoulders about, because there simply isn't a 'right' or 'wrong' way to do execute some of the moves I would manage to pull off. The free-form nature and infinite possibilities of grappling is part of the fun for me. It's why I'm sure many of the people on this board prefer grappling sports over TMA's. Once you get a feel for your body and it's positioning on the mat, you can really begin to focus on your opponent- where he is, what he's doing, and how you can manipulate it. If you've been grappling for a while, you should know intuitively what types of motions will cause joint strain, or what will bait a response out of your opponent that makes him give up position etc., so it's always been my philosophy to just go for it and try to make something happen.
 
blanko said:
does anyone else close their eyes when they roll time to time?
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Haha, no. Now you really are talking about some high-on-jj, zen crap. I have no idea why you would not want every bit of information you can get out there on the mat, and your eyes definitely provide some input that your sense of feel cannot pick up on.
 
blanko said:
It's like a surfing/snowboarding feeling.....
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When I started judo I did alotta things I hadn't seen before and when IU started to search for info I kinda stumbled upon them, it is like especially escapes, you turn one way and feel in what direction his strewnght is aimed

And the flow you talk about is the greatest feeling, sometiesm even better then both sex and weed. I tend to feel like iu have an outerbody experience and see things in slomotion
 
Bubble Boy said:
Happens quite a bit. I've written descriptions about matches before (in my log), and then later see the video and my recollections never accurate. I had my coach tell me after a match that I went for too many tomoe nage's and I told him he was wrong, I never went for a single one. It's not even a throw I like. When I watched the vid I had dropped for 3 tomoe nages during the match...
I zone out pretty bad.
I'm amazed when people on forums can describe each move they did and how they set it up in a tournament, or even just rolling around. Aesopian comes to mind. My brain just doesn't process and compile that way.
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Didn't we have a discussion a long time ago about the difference between a right brainside controlled grappler and a leftside controlled grappler? You are learly like a rightie,

Which side? http://www.sherdog.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=12019122

Reasoning functions such as language are often lateralized to the left hemisphere of the brain. Dyscalculia is a neurological syndrome associated with damage to the left temporal-parietal junction[1]. This syndrome is associated with poor number manipulation, poor mental arithmetic, and an inability to understand or apply mathematical concepts[1].

In contrast, visual and music functions such as spatial manipulation, facial perception, and artistic ability seem to be lateralized to the right hemisphere.

Other integrative functions such as intuitive or heuristic arithmetic, binaural sound localization, emotions, etc. seem to be more bilaterally controlled.[2]

LEFT BRAIN FUNCTIONS

uses logic, detail oriented, words and language, present and past, math and science, order/pattern perception, knows object name.

RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS

uses feeling, holistically ("big picture") oriented, symbols and images, present and future, spatial perception, knows object function.
 
blanko said:
does anyone else close their eyes when they roll time to time?
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I tend to look at the ceiling or the floor, depending on where I am. It helps to be able to feel your opponent at times instead of always spotting visually where their limbs are.
 
blanko said:
does anyone else close their eyes when they roll time to time?
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Stephan Kesting of http://www.grapplearts.com/ recommends doing it from time to time. I have once or twice. It's pretty weird, but you do have to concentrate alot more of 'feeling things' out. Plus, it freaks your partner out...so that's an added bonus.
 
blanko said:
does anyone else close their eyes when they roll time to time?
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I have and do when Im drilling or on a flow drill.

I know exactly what your saying. Sometimes the flow comes to you and not from the individual thinking about whats gunna happen next.
 
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