We mock boxing far too readily.
Every other success from a different art, are elite in that art.
Doesnt matter how you cut it, in kickboxing and boxing, JDS is an unknown.
His BJJ is accredited, but unproven in any MMA or BJJ sense.
His wrestling is basically MMA Wrestling, but its not really that impressive.
HW is the baddest man on the planet division, and the reality is, you could take any boxer in the top 100, add TDD training from 22 years old, and youd have a problem with your hyperbole.
I think Cain wins tonight. Thats why im dropping this now. But tis brainfood fo sure, that JDS goes so far on an art, he isnt anywhere near elite at in a pure context.
I guess GSP is similar, and MMA is a different game when you mix in the threat of the TD. Different people will handle that different and will mix it up different when you throw in the attacks, but yeh, food for thought.
I went too far saying his kicks were non existent. I doubt many will debate the central point though.
No more bad ass than a wrestler with great hands.
I don't think we have ever seen a 'wrestler with great hands'. I mean, yes great compared to their MMA peers when they can keep it standing. I guess Chuck and Rampage would qualify as solid hands. But 'great hands'? By what standards?
The above said a truly elite boxer with TDD would do very well...with just those two their will always be someone with the right skill set to beat him IMO
In offensive well rounded MMA he is a puncher. His kicks are non existant, and he hasnt submitted anyone in the last half decade..
St-Pierre, Cain, Jones, Weidman have only to defend against strikes in a stand up fight. But your type of fighter has to defend against takedowns and strikes at the same time. So even a great boxer can get ko or kd by a wrestler. See Silva Weidman or Cain JDS 2.
St-Pierre, Cain, Jones, Weidman have only to defend against strikes in a stand up fight. But your type of fighter has to defend against takedowns and strikes at the same time. So even a great boxer can get ko or kd by a wrestler. See Silva Weidman or Cain JDS 2.
This is why I was pissed when JDS beat Cain and I'll be really pissed if he does it again, this is MMA, not boxing. I don't want to see a guy that pretty much just boxes be champ. If I wanted to see boxing, I'd watch that. He's a nice guy, but I hope he never takes the belt again and that no boxer ever does.