Does Lesnar benefit from signing his UFC contract late with USADA testing?

[Combat Wombatt]

Rumor is that Lesnar's been training for roughly 13 months for his fight at UFC 200. If it had been signed way back 13 months ago I'd suspect he'd be eligible for USADA testing for those 13 months? However, if he signs the contract now (a few days ago or whatever) and they can start testing him it's only a month of testing. So any out of competition drug test would only be within the next tests. If he was a current UFC/MMA fighter like most everyone else I'm sure he could have been tested randomly whenever out of competition but Lesnar is not and is coming out of retirement.


I'm not sure how contracts and testing work, but is the above premise correct? That by signing the contract only a month before the fight Lesnar is considered a MMA/UFC competitor at the signing of his new contract and can only be tested starting then and anytime afterward?


And I'm no Lesnar hater. My 2 favorite fighters are Fedor and Lesnar. I'm just looking for clarification on this.

 

[DIABOLUS]

Zuffa wouldn't do something shady like that...

 

[RogerD]

I believe it

 

[Weidman]

What if Lesnar never left UFC, what if Conor and Brock are the same person, and that's why Conor is out of 200 and Brock in...i mean, i never saw them together.

 

[mjfan23]

Lesnar is too big of an attraction in both wrestling and UFC to care about USADA. UFC might though purposely have timed it to make sure he beats the test. Lesnar himself most likely didn't give a rats he's getting paid for his brand wherever he performs

 

[mjfan23]

Zuffa wouldn't do something shady like that...

Zuffa is the only party involved who
Might do something like that

 

[KB Warrior]

He is supposed to give 4 months notice to USADA. @dimspace will know if he did or not.

 

[DIABOLUS]

Zuffa is the only party involved who
Might do something like that

I added the "..." so people wouldn't think I was being serious.

Zuffa, NSAC, USADA, they're all shady motherfuckers. I expect nothing less than dirty, underhanded back-stabbing schemes from them. All in the name of money.

 

[lsa]

Rumor is that Lesnar's been training for roughly 13 months for his fight at UFC 200. If it had been signed way back 13 months ago I'd suspect he'd be eligible for USADA testing for those 13 months? However, if he signs the contract now (a few days ago or whatever) and they can start testing him it's only a month of testing. So any out of competition drug test would only be within the next tests. If he was a current UFC/MMA fighter like most everyone else I'm sure he could have been tested randomly whenever out of competition but Lesnar is not and is coming out of retirement.


I'm not sure how contracts and testing work, but is the above premise correct? That by signing the contract only a month before the fight Lesnar is considered a MMA/UFC competitor at the signing of his new contract and can only be tested starting then and anytime afterward?


And I'm no Lesnar hater. My 2 favorite fighters are Fedor and Lesnar. I'm just looking for clarification on this.

do you have a legit source for this?
Why would the UFC wait to the last min to announce that the biggest ppv star they ever have will be on the 200 card?
why not announce him and the opponent?

 

[thechoice2]

Lesnar is too big of an attraction in both wrestling and UFC to care about USADA. UFC might though purposely have timed it to make sure he beats the test. Lesnar himself most likely didn't give a rats he's getting paid for his brand wherever he performs

What an idiotic post. Lesnar cares about USADA because if he doesn't pass a test, he wouldn't be fighting.

 

[GSPenn1991]

For some reason I believe lesnar is all natural. Never got caught in ufc or we for roiding. The guy was huge ever since he was 15. Maybe its from all the steak and potatoes.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Lots of missing USADA/BROCK
threads. The info is out there...

Found this with a quick google search:

 

[Hoop]

Yes, it would seem that way. Read somewhere that in principle, the UFC/organisation, can have Lesnar go through 4 months of random testing if he's coming back without a fight scheduled, but they can reduce it to a month if they want.

 

[Which Doctor]

Rumor is that Lesnar's been training for roughly 13 months for his fight at UFC 200. If it had been signed way back 13 months ago I'd suspect he'd be eligible for USADA testing for those 13 months? However, if he signs the contract now (a few days ago or whatever) and they can start testing him it's only a month of testing. So any out of competition drug test would only be within the next tests. If he was a current UFC/MMA fighter like most everyone else I'm sure he could have been tested randomly whenever out of competition but Lesnar is not and is coming out of retirement.


I'm not sure how contracts and testing work, but is the above premise correct? That by signing the contract only a month before the fight Lesnar is considered a MMA/UFC competitor at the signing of his new contract and can only be tested starting then and anytime afterward?


And I'm no Lesnar hater. My 2 favorite fighters are Fedor and Lesnar. I'm just looking for clarification on this.

Lesnar is too big of an attraction in both wrestling and UFC to care about USADA. UFC might though purposely have timed it to make sure he beats the test. Lesnar himself most likely didn't give a rats he's getting paid for his brand wherever he performs

 

[dim_]

He is supposed to give 4 months notice to USADA. @dimspace will know if he did or not.

It doesnt apply in his case, or certainly the rules are worded so it doesnt need to apply to him

i their contract now it states that i they retire and then return they must be in the testing pool for four months (same as if their contract ends, they go say to bellator and then come back to the ufc they have to be in teh testing pool for four months..)

but...

the way i understand it, is it only applies if they are under that (current) contract at the time of retirement or leaving.. Lesnar wasnt..

So hes effectively just a new signing just like any other fighter who joins the UFC as a late callup.

Is it ideal, no, especially with someone as high profile as Lesnar.. lets not hide the fact that he was caught red handed with growth hormones.



I doubt that either USADA or Novitzky are thrilled, but hes a new signing, theres no issue.

There are problems though, one fight deal, only in the ufc for 4-5 weeks, he can afford to hide from the testers and blow at least two wherabouts strikes in that time, and knowing he was going to be fighting at 200 since, god knows when, means he was pretty much free to do whatever he wanted as long as he cycled off in time.

its not a great situation, it certainly doesnt do the UFC any favours from a perception point of view when they are trying to sell the whole USADA testing thing to the public.




Short term gain with no long term view.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Short term gain with no long term view.

CAPITALISM FOR DUMMIES(aka;everyone)

 

[SlamMan]

What if Lesnar never left UFC, what if Conor and Brock are the same person, and that's why Conor is out of 200 and Brock in...i mean, i never saw them together.

I wish we could go a day without seeing a picture of Mcfly

 

[Combat Wombatt]

It doesnt apply in his case, or certainly the rules are worded so it doesnt need to apply to him

i their contract now it states that i they retire and then return they must be in the testing pool for four months (same as if their contract ends, they go say to bellator and then come back to the ufc they have to be in teh testing pool for four months..)

but...

the way i understand it, is it only applies if they are under that (current) contract at the time of retirement or leaving.. Lesnar wasnt..

So hes effectively just a new signing just like any other fighter who joins the UFC as a late callup.

Is it ideal, no, especially with someone as high profile as Lesnar.. lets not hide the fact that he was caught red handed with growth hormones.



I doubt that either USADA or Novitzky are thrilled, but hes a new signing, theres no issue.

There are problems though, one fight deal, only in the ufc for 4-5 weeks, he can afford to hide from the testers and blow at least two wherabouts strikes in that time, and knowing he was going to be fighting at 200 since, god knows when, means he was pretty much free to do whatever he wanted as long as he cycled off in time.

its not a great situation, it certainly doesnt do the UFC any favours from a perception point of view when they are trying to sell the whole USADA testing thing to the public.




Short term gain with no long term view.

What about perception if Lesnar pisses clean, which I expect him to do?

 

[lsa]

It doesnt apply in his case, or certainly the rules are worded so it doesnt need to apply to him

i their contract now it states that i they retire and then return they must be in the testing pool for four months (same as if their contract ends, they go say to bellator and then come back to the ufc they have to be in teh testing pool for four months..)

but...

the way i understand it, is it only applies if they are under that (current) contract at the time of retirement or leaving.. Lesnar wasnt..

So hes effectively just a new signing just like any other fighter who joins the UFC as a late callup.

Is it ideal, no, especially with someone as high profile as Lesnar.. lets not hide the fact that he was caught red handed with growth hormones.



I doubt that either USADA or Novitzky are thrilled, but hes a new signing, theres no issue.

There are problems though, one fight deal, only in the ufc for 4-5 weeks, he can afford to hide from the testers and blow at least two wherabouts strikes in that time, and knowing he was going to be fighting at 200 since, god knows when, means he was pretty much free to do whatever he wanted as long as he cycled off in time.

its not a great situation, it certainly doesnt do the UFC any favours from a perception point of view when they are trying to sell the whole USADA testing thing to the public.




Short term gain with no long term view.

 

[ocfightfan]

Strict but fair.