Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by WASSUPBRO, Sep 11, 2019.
jones takes PED and cheats, there is no debate to have
About him taking PEDs? Obviously..... When did I ever deny this?
lol I think you perfectly understood, but if you need more precision, there is no debate about the n°1 spot as jones being a cheater and taking PED's takes him out of the discussion of who's n°1
therefore khabib is not a threat to his n°1 spot as he doesn't have the n°1 spot
jones being the shitty person he is, is certainely jealous of khabib's success and attention lately, but the question you asked wasn't well put
(sorry for the tone if you were genuinely asking)
Jones is a big cheater, no question. At the end of the day, it seemingly means little to nothing. He's ranked #1 in the world so how much does him being a cheater really matter when the people in charge of the storybooks just have it as a footnote?
I feel they are quite similar.
Jones cheats on his fiance, Khabib makes his wife wear a towel.
They can learn tips from each other.
Jones acting like a petty ass bitch on social media is kinda on brand, right?
(I don't follow any fighters on social media and so I could be wrong)
it is all yap yap anyways. not like they will ever fight
RDA is one of the best gurapplers from 155-170 and Khabib shut him out. RDA had a very competitive 3-2 fight with Colby while being the clearly smaller man (and alot of Colbys offense was just holding him against the cage), took him down multiple times, won scrambles, passed his guard, hurt him standing etc and he had nothing for Khabib. He even took a round from Usman and had him in a very tight kimura at one point despite a massive size disadvantage and having way more mileage and past his best
Healy is also no slouch on the mat. Hes submitted guys like Hardy, Daley, Condit (right after he went to decision with Shields) and Jim Miller (only guy besides Nate at that point)
Dustins not exactly a scrub on the mat. Hes finished Max and Pettis on the guround and outgurappled them. Against KZ and his WEC debut against Castillo were the only times he was outgurappled pre Khabib
As long as khabib doesn't pop he has already surpassed jones. The 155 division is the deepest and toughest division. Jones fought a lot of hagged out old guys. His two best wins were against DC and he popped on one of them.
You log into to sherdog and talk about khabib like someone with a porn addiction.
It’s fuck weird bro.
Also Bones never fought close to the sturiking talent of Khabib
Shogun was washed at that point and just came off a surgery
Rampage was a shell of himself and a one dimensional brawler. Hashad was never a very good sturiker, Shale, Bader (at that point), Janitor, OSP lmao, Daniel isnt a very good sturiker either (doesnt even know what to do with a body hook), and Vitor was pre Hooft/Blackzilians where he didnt kick and was a one dimensional blitz swarmer
The best sturikers he fought were
- Lyoto who was a way undersized MW
- Gus (who arguably beat him the first time, sent him limping to the hospital)
- Smith who arguably beat him as well and also sent him limping while on one leg
Bones never had to deal with sturiking talent close to
Poirier, Conor, Edson, RDA, Johnson
Those RDA/Usman scorecards were retarded. He got dominated bad yet somehow won 2 rounds on one judge's scorecard.
Look at the media scores. Literally every single one stated Usman pitched a shutout against RDA with the majority even having 1 round as a 10-8. He was outstruck and outgrappled in every single round yet somehow won the 1st 2 rounds on Helen Keller, I mean Chris Lee's scorecard.
Who in the FUCK thinks GSP was fighting weak competition? He literally has the greatest resume of all time.
He only won 2 rounds one 1 scorecard which was bad. He won the 2nd round for sure that kimura was the closest the fight was to being finished and Khabib was never close to as vulnerable against him
And Usman has a massive size advantage against RDA so it isnt as impressive
someone with not as much of a size advantage but still the #2 in the division in Colby had a very competitive 3-2 fight with him and multiple sequences and exchanges on the mat and on the feet
Did you really just try to convince people that Michael Johnson is a better striker than Lyoto Machida? Really?
Michael Johnson, the guy who went down to 145 wasn't outsized? Wasn't way past his prime when he fought Khabib? I can easily tear down everyone you posted as a great "sturiker" on Khabib's resume too. It's not hard when you want to engage in full bias mode.
Khabib is DC's friend and Khabib critized Jones getting a light suspension after Khabib's buddies popped and got 2 years
That's why Jones doesn't like him
Can u read?
I mentioned Lyoto was one of the few legit sturikers that Bones fought just way undersized. Never did I say Johnson was better
and Johnson heading into the Khabib fight was on a stureak and only real lost a competitive 2-1 FOTN with Nate. He got robbed against Dariush and outstruck Edson, Guillard and KOd Poirier and Tibau
RDA won no rounds. He was outworked from bell to bell every round. Round 2 was the closest and he was still outworked that round. It's very telling when one of the judges scores it a shutout with a 10-8 round yet somehow, another judge has the guy who got shutout with a 10-8 nearly winning the fight. It's a disgrace. A joke. I don't even like Usman either.
Anderson fought at LHW twice in the ufc if not mistaken. And against DC too.
Johnson was 1-2 in his last 3 going into the Khabib fight...... Machida was also 1-2 but he at least lost to guys who were UFC champs. Johnson lost to a gatekeeper and an average fighter.
What losses are worse? Losing to Shogun and Rampage (Complete BS decision BTW and I am a Page fan and don't like Lyoto) or losses to Nate Diaz and Beniel Dariush?
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