Does Footage Exist of Ao Hailin?

[EndlessCritic]

For those who don't recall, Ao Hailin was one of the coaches on TUF China, and then mysteriously left the show midway through.

Cung Le (who was the host) claimed that Hailin had no ground game whatsoever: https://www.mmafighting.com/2014/3/11/5492514/cung-le-details-chaos-surrounding-filming-of-tuf-china

But this seems at odds with the fact that most of Ao Hailin's wins were by submission: https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Hailin-Ao-16986

While nobody would accuse the guy of having fought world class competition, Vaughn Anderson and Ueyama were not bad fighters.

To this day, I've never seen a single Ao Hailin fight. Anyone have a clue where footage exists?

 

[Kforcer]

For those who don't recall, Ao Hailin was one of the coaches on TUF China, and then mysteriously left the show midway through.

Cung Le (who was the host) claimed that Hailin had no ground game whatsoever: https://www.mmafighting.com/2014/3/11/5492514/cung-le-details-chaos-surrounding-filming-of-tuf-china

But this seems at odds with the fact that most of Ao Hailin's wins were by submission: https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Hailin-Ao-16986

While nobody would accuse the guy of having fought world class competition, Vaughn Anderson and Ueyama were not bad fighters.

To this day, I've never seen a single Ao Hailin fight. Anyone have a clue where footage exists?

Huh. Ironic that Cung Le is criticizing someone for not having a ground-game. You've got in Cung Le a fellow who was a national-level Greco-Roman wrestler, a successful folkstyle wrestler and a world-class striker who in all likelihood refined and improved his takedown game in his san shou career along with his striking and yet who never added the one component to his MMA game that he didn't already possess going in--the ground game.

As far as findind Ao Hailin, maybe the key would be finding the Art of War events he was on? You'd probably have a better chance that way.

 

[Kforcer]

There's a little bit of him in the second to last fight, versus Vaughn Anderson.

 

[Kforcer]

Here is the full fight of Vaughn Anderson versus Ao Hai Lin.

 

[Kforcer]

part 2 of his fight versus Alan Fernandes.

 

[EndlessCritic]

By modern standards I'm sure his ground game is rudimentary, but the videos show he had some level of competence on the ground.

Thanks for posting!

 

[Fork]

this should be a google video search with his name in chinese characters that will bring up a lot of his fights: HERE

a few of the results from weirdo chinese video sites that can't be embedded:
URCC 7 - Ao Hailin vs. Christian Wong
AOW 4 - Ao Hailin vs. Sun Wu
AOW 5 - Ao Hailin vs. Sile Hu
AOW 11 - Ao Hailin vs. Nick Mellor

 

[B0l0joe]

Huh. Ironic that Cung Le is criticizing someone for not having a ground-game. You've got in Cung Le a fellow who was a national-level Greco-Roman wrestler, a successful folkstyle wrestler and a world-class striker who in all likelihood refined and improved his takedown game in his san shou career along with his striking and yet who never added the one component to his MMA game that he didn't already possess going in--the ground game.

As far as findind Ao Hailin, maybe the key would be finding the Art of War events he was on? You'd probably have a better chance that way.

Well Cung was a wicked grappler, obviously more of a wrestler than a submission artist. However just because he didn’t initiate it, it doesn’t mean he didn’t have the skills.
I also never saw anyone do anything to him on the mat during his mma career.

 

[Kforcer]

Well Cung was a wicked grappler, obviously more of a wrestler than a submission artist. However just because he didn’t initiate it, it doesn’t mean he didn’t have the skills.
I also never saw anyone do anything to him on the mat during his mma career.

He was an excellent wrestler. And as I stated, an excellent wrestler before he even considered doing MMA. He wrestled in high school and in junior college was a nationally ranked Greco-Roman wrestler. And an excellent striker.

As far as his submission grappling game, he expressly said he would never do his most famous move, his flying scissor takedown, in MMA because it would get him submitted. The flying scissor is one of the single most powerful entries into a leglock. For someone to assume they are going to get submitted off of their execution of a flying scissor indicates that they have no faith in their ground game. You literally land in proper control for a leglock. The move only puts you in danger in so much as it puts you on the ground. He also tended not to follow his opponents to the mat when he did execute takedowns or throws on them, ala as if it were a san shou fight. That fear of the ground disabled him from making full use of his skill set--he should have been able to execute flying scissors, suplexes and throws with impunity.

He had wrestling , had striking but by his own admission, he never had a grappling game. The one ingredient he didn't already possess before training for MMA he never added.

 

[Asurah]

There used to be a bunch of Art of War events floating around but they might be lost to time. As mentioned previously, always try searching for fighters in whatever their name is in their native alphabet. It can work wonders when looking for stuff from Asia or Eastern Europe

 

[InfinityLens]

There used to be a bunch of Art of War events floating around but they might be lost to time. As mentioned previously, always try searching for fighters in whatever their name is in their native alphabet. It can work wonders when looking for stuff from Asia or Eastern Europe

Is there a translator that puts it into the native alphabet?