Does "Don't leave it to the judges" really mean "we're OK w/ bad judges to encourage finishes"?

[Wizzlebiz]

Master manipulated is what Dana is. As is with all promoters

But no the judging infuriates him. He does a good job twisting it to work in the best interests of the UFC by using it against the fighter.

Lemonade out of pee pee

 

[Wizzlebiz]

History has shown us the judges are paid off in the UFC.

UFc needs undefeated champs to sell tickets, so they will vote in favor of of the undefeated champ as long as they make it passed 5 rounds.

if tony goes 5 rounds with kabib and he won on paper the judges will no doubt give it to kabib just to keep him undefeated.

alot of money goes under the table you can tell

Are you serious? How old are you? Every single theory you have is straight up crazy! Judges are appointed by the State Athletic Commission and have nothing to do with the UFC! If a Dana White paid off a judge to score a fight for the Champion he and the judge would be arrested by the FBI who is in control of Sports Bribery and they would get several years in prison for this! This is a serious accusation that you shouldn't be tossing around! If Dana were actually doing this he would be hurting the integrity of his sport and the UFC and the $4 billion it would be purchased for would be worth nothing! Did you watch the Demetrious Johnson vs Henry Cejudo fight? DJ definitely won that fight! He was on a record title run and the judges gave it to the challenger so your theory is shot down with this! The only way to not get jobbed by an incompetent ref is to finish your opponent and "leave it out of the judges hands"! It's that fucking simple!!!

love white belt fights

 

[faustian]

I've also seen it used to justify the unwritten rule that a contender has to finish the champ in order to become "And NEW...."

 

[xMaxPower]

The more I think about this dogturd line that the most powerful men in the sport like to mutter (Dana White), the more it becomes clear that the line is actually a great thing for him because it's an excuse to say "you better finish this!" using the judges as the scapegoat. Whereas a league commissioner saying "I don't want decisions in my league!" would come off as extremely bias, since it isn't reasonable to always demand/expect finishes.
It would be like if in the NFL, the refs were known to blow field goal calls, and Roger Goodell the commissioner saying "well if you don't want bad field goal rulings you better score a touchdown!"

Do you agree?

yep

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Many would argue the most important fight in UFC history was a decision, funny enough: Bonnar vs. Griffin

To be fair, neither one of those fighters wanted it to go to a decision. Both tried to finish each other.

 

[KinoDemo]

The judges currently do suck. But even with your pick of 3 qualified judges it’s safer to finish the fight than hope they saw every strike that missed or landed flush or accurately judged the effectiveness of every takedown or the defense of it.

Even beyond the W or L people will still hold close fights against fighters; see GSP v. Hendricks, Silva v. Bisping, Jones v. Reyes.

 

[MidnightSnacks**]

It's kind of like the Mayor of a City saying "lock your doors at night because the police in this city are awful" actually.

No, the police work for the city, so the mayor is responsible for them

Judges work for athletic commissions and more importantly, do not, and never will work directly for Dana. He isnt their boss, he cant fire them and he cant give them bonuses etc

Legally, he is powerless to the judges and can only contract with the athletic commission who handles the judges

It is done this way to make it clear that he cannot sway decisions and the event will be "fair". He thinks most judges suck and that's why he says the fighters shouldn't trust them to make the correct decision

 

[tramendous]

It's kind of like the Mayor of a City saying "lock your doors at night because the police in this city are awful" actually.

Lol true. I think dana has said it a few times about dont leave it to the judges but the athletic commissions control the judges and they never said that.