Does Cuba have the best amateur program in boxing?

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  1. SandisLL

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    Cuba most likely maybe? keep financing at soviet times level.
    Warshav Block and these FSU countries had very decent financing for amateur system in 1960-1990. Now, it depends from each country.
     
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    Are you being serious or are you only comparing all-time Olympic success? Since Cuba rose to prominence in amateur boxing in the 70's they've been much more than just a challenge to the US or any other nation for that matter. Head-to-head, nation vs nation, they beat us out in the 70's (the US & Cuba each bested the other at one Olympic Games apiece but Cuba beat us out at the Worlds on both occasions). In the 80's, due to the Olympic boycotts which involved both Cuba ('84 & '88) and the US ('80), the US only faced the Cubans for bragging rights at the Worlds where their best teams continued to beat the best US teams on all three occasions. From the 90's on the US amateur scene did heavily decline and Cuba has been killing us since.

    The US and Cuba have now clashed 19 times at the Worlds but we've only ever managed to place higher as a nation once (the '99 Worlds, which were hosted in the US). Historically that's only a staggeringly low 5% success rate against them at the highest ranking world level tournament in the sport not named the Olympics. It's been that way ever since the first Worlds in '74 which was well before the US amateur scene's decline. At the Worlds Cuba has nearly 5× as much gold as the US and 3× as many total medals.

    When you combine their ridiculous success historically at the Worlds with their Olympic success (the latter of which they're 2nd only to the US for now), which is how it's always done when totaling significant world level achievements/medal haul, they have the most gold and total medals of any country by a healthy margin. Cuba has a combined 114 gold medals & 211 total medals as opposed to the US with 66 gold medals & 160 total medals. That's nearly twice as much gold and 51 more world level medals altogether. Cuba is the top producer of World & Olympic champions and world medalists because clearly their amateur program is better than ours in the US and it arguably always was better since they announced themselves as a key player on the amateur world boxing scene in the 70's.
     
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    Media development and pro boxing worship era.
    Most likely plus....…...their amateurs are " amateurs ".
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    There for example ice hockey in SU was formally amateur sport too.
    When SU collapsed, some from these amateurs get offered highly paid gigs in NHL.
    Some amateurs from other ex soviet countries too.
    Yes, they were amateurs that later had been paid by NHL. :)
     
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