Does anyone know if the UFC top brass, fighters, commentators etc. bet on fights?

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I've never thought about it until recently listening to some MMA analysts break down how they expect fights to play out and I started wondering if people like that actually bet on fights (because a lot of times they seem pretty spot on), or if there's a policy that doesn't allow people like Dana White, commentators or fighters to bet on fights?
 
Joe Hogan has specifically mentioned betting.

Don't recall others but I'm sure they do - a policy like the one you're talking about would be legally null, so even if it existed, it wouldn't be actionable.
 
They don't. It would be a serious conflict of interest. If it was found out they did it would likely be illegal. I could just be talking out of my ass though.
 
HuntersCreed said:
They don't. It would be a serious conflict of interest. If it was found out they did it would likely be illegal. I could just be talking out of my ass though.
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The thing is they're regulated by commissions who are obligated to sanction fights (or not). That's based on the reasonable expectation of abilities between two fighters, such that on an arbitrary measure of abilities (what they use, I don't know), the fighters can be competitive.

I guess there could be something wrong if, for example, there was a pattern Joe Silva/the matchmaker was pairing up people based on information disclosed personally to him like injuries, but that's really far-fetched.

My thinking is heavy favourites and underdogs will always be there, but based on the parameters of sanctions, there would only be malpractice if the matchmaking pattern was demonstrably based on privately disclosed information that directly relates to competitiveness and if he was betting off of that.

Someone tell me if I'm wrong though. I may be.
 
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/12/mark-wahlberg-the-gambler

Mark Wahlberg's gambling tip: Bet on UFC reruns

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Sorry, I don't have a gif or picture, but if you watch the replay of Silva vs Sonnen 2, you can see the disappointment on Rogan's face. That man lost some money.
 
they are not suppose to. but they can always bet via family/friends name for any fight they feel they have some inside info on. there is really no way to control it 100%. Match makers, promoters, trainers, etc all potentially can have some good inside info from time to time and really make some good bets out of it.

its the same as in my industry. many of us have to sign away rights to own stocks in our PA (personal account) to avoid conflict of interest, "front running", or trade base on inside/non public info. And IF there is any ownership prior, has to be disclosed and approved. HOWEVER, many do trade PA while employed in the industry...they just do it under someone else's name. There is no way to control it.
 
straight6 said:
its the same as in my industry. many of us have to sign away rights to own stocks in our PA (personal account) to avoid conflict of interest, "front running", or trade base on inside/non public info. And IF there is any ownership prior, has to be disclosed and approved. HOWEVER, many do trade PA while employed in the industry...they just do it under someone else's name. There is no way to control it.
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The conflict of interest to which you're referring is based on the company's continued financial endowment.

Where insider trading would cause disruption in your area, insiders simply betting on fighters wouldn't change the natural order of things unless it met the condition I earlier said. It would be a personal activity that wouldn't spill over into the business.
 
If I'm wrong, someone can correct me, but the casinos owned by the Fertitta brothers do not take bets on UFC fights.
 
Hespect Housey said:
The conflict of interest to which you're referring is based on the company's continued financial endowment.

Where insider trading would cause disruption in your area, insiders simply betting on fighters wouldn't change the natural order of things unless it met the condition I earlier said. It would be a personal activity that wouldn't spill over into the business.
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yeah I agree. Not saying that it would impact the natural outcome of things, but im just saying that these kind of betting (they shouldn't) is hard to control 100%. I mean they can always do it thru their personal connections.

I don't think the top brass are (since they so rich and they have much to lose if anything is exposed), but im guessing like trainers/training patners? Maybe commentators who has had some info prior, etc.
 
Dana gave Lyoto extra cash for beating Tito.

I don't think this is the only time he made that offer to Tito's opponents.
 
straight6 said:
yeah I agree. Not saying that it would impact the natural outcome of things, but im just saying that these kind of betting (they shouldn't) is hard to control 100%. I mean they can always do it thru their personal connections.

I don't think the top brass are (since they so rich and they have much to lose if anything is exposed), but im guessing like trainers/training patners? Maybe commentators who has had some info prior, etc.
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Trainers and partners can bet on fights, why they fuck couldn't they?
 
Hespect Housey said:
Joe Hogan has specifically mentioned betting.

Don't recall others but I'm sure they do - a policy like the one you're talking about would be legally null, so even if it existed, it wouldn't be actionable.
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Joe is a commentator.

Dana and Fertitas and Silva CANNOT bet on fights if they ever fucking want to get a fight licensed again. You are fucking talking out of your ass about LEGALLY NULL. Might not be statutorily illegal (though it probably is in Nevada) but promoters cannot bet on fights.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THE KO BONUS WAS CHANGED? Because it was legally iffy as a way of influencing fights.
 
spid3yo said:
Trainers and partners can bet on fights, why they fuck couldn't they?
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A fighter betting that he loses is not ever fighting again if an AC hears about it. The promoter cannot bet ever.
 
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