Opinion Does anyone here believe that Saudi Arabia is becoming Western?

Saudi Society Is Changing. Just Take a Look at These Coffeehouses.

As the government relaxes restrictions on men and women working and socializing together, coffeehouses are on the front lines of change.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny.../middleeast/saudi-women-coffee-shops.amp.html

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These are the people you listen to NPC's?

Does anyone here believe that Saudi Arabia is becoming Western?

Or is it more likely that these whores at the NYT's are for sale like our government?

Fucking embarrassment to the word journalism.

Discuss........

 

"Becoming Western" is a weird thing to define. They are and have been open to business with, and to do the bidding of, American capital. Hell, the country's economy was first built by Chevron.

But, yes, it's definitely true that some social restrictions are being liberalized in Saudi Arabia right now. It's cynical and transparently a vehicle through which MBS is consolidating power. But two things can be true simultaneously.

 

Yeah, Saudis are allowing for softened cultural restrictions. WWE had the first ever female match there and it was met with great response from the populace in attendance.

 

That's just cause they got to see hot chicks in bikinis that were performers, not actual women interacting in society with them

 

Well they also made it ok for women to travel freely aboard without male accompanying. They can drive. The age of adulthood is the same for both sexes.

It's still repressive overall but it is softening

 

pics, Viva, pics.

 

I just notice a bit of a tone difference here between the way they are talking about SA, and those protest murderers in Iran.

You noticed that a bit?

 

So, just a simple question.

What country would you rather be a female in?

Iran or SA?

I mean obviously neither, but gun to the head, who you choosing?

 

They also banned rocks, which led to confusion for this guy.


Disclaimer: this might be NYT quality journalism here, as in fake news.

 

in Iran, some of the chicks seem open to being more sluttier.

 

Which is what happens when you don't hit them for it.

 

I don't know a single diva on the current roster. Were they wrestling in burkas?

 

Body suits

 

That's haram brothers.

 

Sounds like you're promoting violence against women.

 

Most of the elites of Saudi Arabia have wanted to liberalize for a long time but they sort of had a deal with the Islamists to avoid Islamic revolution like Iran. MBS is consolidating power and isn't afraid to challenge the Islamists and they're not really in a position to do much about it now. In this sense, they're becoming more Westernized. But of course, SA will never be anywhere near the West, they won't even be Turkey or Lebanon. But they are becoming more like the UAE. I do think there will be some benefits, especially if they stop funding and propagating terrorism, or at least to a much lesser extent than they have been.

 

Monday you're just watching women's WWE. By Friday you're watching lesbian step-sister porn. The Saudi's better tread carefully through the moral minefield.

 

I saw a headline the other day saying "most step sister / brother porn is fake"

Most? MOST!?!

 

You can only know for sure the sister porn isn't fake when it's identical twins.