Does anyone else think Gus could KO JDS?

I think he could also catch a bullet with his teeth, but I dont think it's super likely.
 
ErnestoRoost said:
Where does this stuff come from?
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Who knows, people say outlandish shit just to get responses.


The scenario posed by the TS is as likely as your user name inspiration submitting Werdum with a gogoplata or inverted triangle.
 
Gus would die in the octagon.

He couldn`t even KO a crippled Shogun and got rocked by Jones, who is by no means a heavy hitter.

You dummies need to stop the LHW vs HW non sense.
 
BiasBEgone said:
Gus would die in the octagon.

He couldn`t even KO a crippled Shogun and got rocked by Jones, who is by no means a heavy hitter.

You dummies need to stop the LHW vs HW non sense.
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Thank you. This thread should have been wastelanded before a single reply was made. But its a Gus nuthugger thread so it has to stay.
 
He does have power, but he doesn't use it, he prefers to be technical and make you look silly when trying to box with him.
 
I don't think so
 
JayElectra said:
While I think it's unlikely, I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Gustafsson stopped Dos Santos in a 5 round fight. Gustafsson has some power in his hands and more importantly has kept a high volume for 5 rounds (it did taper off a lot in the 5th after getting hurt several times by Jones) against a fighter in Jon Jones who exerts far more pressure than Dos Santos. Gustafsson is the better boxer, I think, but much like Dos Santos, Gustafsson isn't without defensive deficiencies and a puncher of Dos Santos' calibre could make him pay for those deficiencies. If they fought tomorrow at HW, I'd slightly favour Gustafsson.
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"several times by jj"

you mean basically that elbow in the 4th that turned the fight and noticeably made gus gas?
 
Gus doesn't even have KO power and JDS has a solid chin.

What made you even come up with this haha >.<
 
That209 said:
Some people will call me crazy, but they have to stop acting like Junior's boxing is amazing. It really isn't.

Gustafsson takes a pretty convincing decision over Junior IMO.

I don't think he'd knock him out, but you never know. Gustafsson is really sneaky with the right hand, whether it be the straight or the uppercut, he gets you from weird angles sometimes.

Junior may have a great chin, but you can only take so many shots. If Gus hurt him, he isn't going to swarm and throw punches into the wind, he's going to pick his shots very intelligently. No matter how great your chin is, if somebody hurts you and keeps landing clean, it can still put you down.

Maybe he could get the TKO if Junior does a poor job defending himself. Gus is one of the most dangerous fighters in the world when he has you hurt because he doesn't overcommit and just go crazy, he picks his shots intelligently, making him more accurate.



That said, I really do think Gus would take the decision for sure over Junior. I think Gustafsson's boxing is better than his. His overall movement is better and I think he dances circles around Junior and picks him apart and hurts him a few times at least.

Junior's boxing isn't nearly as good as some people think it is. It's not bad, but it's not great either. I think Gustafsson's got much better boxing than him. His defense is better, his counters are better, his footwork/overall movement is better, etc.



I think Gus would push a high pace, keep Junior on his heels and push him towards the fence with combinations. Junior seems to get very uncomfortable when his opponent is the aggressor and they force him to move backwards and rely on countering. Junior's counters aren't bad, but they aren't that great. Junior often drops his hands when his back is near the fence as well and I believe that is because he thinks his opponent is going to shoot for a TD.

If Gus can play it right, he can probably make Junior drop his hands and he can tag him with some shots. Gus is able to control the range very well, even when he's pushing forward with punches.



I don't see how Junior 'wrecks' him like so many people are saying. Gus would give Junior hell and Gus takes home a pretty convincing decision IMO.

This isn't to say Junior can't win. As I said - his boxing is good, but not as good as some people think it is. He relies on a lot of the same set ups and he throws almost nothing more than 1-3 punches at a time, which is, in my opinion, one of the big reasons that Stipe was so successful. Stipe knew that Junior wasn't going to throw many big combinations at him and that's why you see Stipe literally just drop his hands when he's standing right in front of Junior sometimes. Not because he was tired, because he knew Junior wasn't going to throw more than 1-3 punches.

The only time we really see Junior throw a longer combination is when he hurts somebody, that's really is. And he ends his combinations off the same almost every single time. He'll end it with the overhand, the uppercut or the left hook.

Gustafsson sets his punches up much better with angles and has a variety of different attacks/set ups to land his best strikes. He has that very, very sneaky right hand that comes in at weird angles sometimes and he's also pretty accurate. Unlike Junior, Gus doesn't throw everything at 100% and that makes him more accurate. Junior throws almost everything at 100% and will punch air a lot because of it.

Gustafsson will throw straight punches but not at 100%, but he's still landing. He's got some accurate hands and the placement is very good. He's able to move his feet and close the distance very well with his jab and then come with that right hand.



Junior rolls with shots pretty well, but he does keep his head on center a lot and he's extremely hittable because of it. I think Gustafsson takes advantage of this because he's very good with distance control and again, doesn't throw at 100%, making him more accurate. He confuses guys with it because it's not always the most powerful strike, but they're still getting tagged from it.



All in all, I really do believe that Gustafsson would take a convincing decision over Junior. Junior has the power to beat anybody but I believe Gustafsson is the better boxing from a technical standpoint, he's got better hands, better overall movement, better defense, etc, etc.

This is not an easy fight for Junior like so many believe and Junior's boxing is not as good as so many believe.

Heavyweight or not, Gustafsson is the better boxer than him and would give him serious fits on the feet and mash his face.
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nice post bro

i just took half a day to read but np

:p
 
Docile said:
Yeah he never trains with heavyweights from other clubs at full speed so he has no idea what a bodyshot from someone like JDS would feel like.... OH WAIT. :rolleyes:
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Like you said in one of your previous posts, he's used to sparring hard with huge heavyweights. He trains almost exclusively with big heavyweights. He flew in a couple GLORY kickboxers to prepare him for Manuwa, as you're probably aware. Andrei Stoica, who is a Top 10 LHW kickboxer, and Benny Adegbuyi who is a Top 5 HW kickboxer. Adegbuyi is 6'6 and 260 pounds. He's massive.
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Gustafsson also trains with Swedes that are huge, taller and a lot larger than he is, regularly. JDS' size and power wouldn't be anything new to Gus at all. Go watch a Benny Adegbuyi highlight and you'll see why. :wink:
 
Got GOAT said:
Like you said in one of your previous posts, he's used to sparring hard with huge heavyweights. He trains almost exclusively with big heavyweights. He flew in a couple GLORY kickboxers to prepare him for Manuwa, as you're probably aware. Andrei Stoica, who is a Top 10 LHW kickboxer, and Benny Adegbuyi who is a Top 5 HW kickboxer. Adegbuyi is 6'6 and 260 pounds. He's massive.
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Gustafsson also trains with Swedes that are huge, taller and a lot larger than he is, regularly. JDS' size and power wouldn't be anything new to Gus at all. Go watch a Benny Adegbuyi highlight and you'll see why. :wink:
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So training with guys with no MMA experience but have good striking means he can knock out a former HW MMA champion who has never been KO'd?

Who cares who he spars with? Gus has never shown one punch KO power at the high level in the UFC LHW department, yet he is going to knock out a former HW champion when guys like Mark Hunt (because Gus obviously has more power than Mark Hunt, duh) couldn't.


Okay
 
Absolutely not. Gus isn't a knock out artist, he doesn't have a lot of power in his hands and I think it would be next to impossible for him to KO JDS. However, not unlikely Gus could win a decision by being a lot quicker.
 
JDS's chin is on another universe....No....
 
JDS has slowed down man. He is so slow now, I could see it with a decision a TKO? Lol walk. But man Pre-Beatdown JDS would eat Gus alive though.
 
When has Gus shown the kind of power to KO a top HW? He has always seemed to be more about dishing out a cumulative beating with great technical striking and GNP.
 
Sure, Gus and all his family thinks like you
 
Philippou4Life said:
This thread is stoopid
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At least there are posters like you that bring out the best in threads with your incredible insight

On topic, I could see Gus' speed, footwork, movement, and technical boxing being an issue for JDS. But Juinior has been in there with the best HW has to offer.

Gus would have to be on top of his game (and VERY careful early in the fight) to make it competitive, but I have no doubt he could. It also seems JDS may have already peaked in his career while Gus seems better than ever
 
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