Does anyone believe that Ngannou would've made more in the UFC if he stayed or at least the same amount of money?

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Obviously Dana White talks a lot of shit, but anyone believe in his bullshit?

Ngannou at least made 20+ million and I'm just lowballing it. How many fights would he had to have in the UFC to make that kind of money?

 

[GiganticMeat]

8 million for Jones
8 million for Jones again
8 million for... Aspinall?

This is provided he wins all three. And you probably have to stretch all of these especially after the first which is the only figure I think we have

So.... Really no

Then again he probably wouldn't have gotten the AJ fight without at least doing well vs Fury

I've also heard Saudi money is untaxed but someone else probably knows better on that. Might be BS

 

[azerty]

In terms of contractual amount there is no debate, White is full of shit
And for now Francis's gamble paid of for him
But who knows where he would be financialy and in terms of notoriety if he stayed and got a couple defenses against jones and aspinal ( big if) ,that Joshua loss was brutal, let's see how he rebound from it

 

[Cobra 03]

He hasn't fought a single MMA fight since he left, so if he was still in the UFC, he probably would have fought more, thus earning more money. Just the Jones fight would have made him more than any 2-3 PFL fighters would have made him. Oh well, he seems happy to have left, so good luck to him.

 

[Leinster Rugby]

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[Michael Wetzel]

He hasn't fought a single MMA fight since he left, so if he was still in the UFC, he probably would have fought more, thus earning more money. Just the Jones fight would have made him more than any 2-3 PFL fighters would have made him. Oh well, he seems happy to have left, so good luck to him.

He made more in the two boxing matches than in his whole UFC career. It was very lucrative for him.

 

[Söze Aldo]

Absofuckinlutely not. He made 30 million between his Fury and AJ fights, 10 mil for Fury, 20 for AJ.

2 fight, 30 million, even a pathological liar like Dana knows he'd have never seen that money in the UFC in a hundred years.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Maybe if he fought for 20 or more years in the UFC

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Depends on the locker room bonuses

 

[Stick upkid]

Even in losing both boxing matches he made more money than the best possible outcome in UFC. He probably would have had to beat jones x2 and aspinall to be in the 20+ million range. Had he lost to jones it obviously would’ve been much less. He rolled the dice and it paid off, but Dana could never bring himself to admit that. The $30 million estimate for boxing is probably pretty accurate. I’m not sure anyone other than McGregor has come close to that in a two fight span.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

8 million for Jones
8 million for Jones again
8 million for... Aspinall?

This is provided he wins all three. And you probably have to stretch all of these especially after the first which is the only figure I think we have

So.... Really no

Then again he probably wouldn't have gotten the AJ fight without at least doing well vs Fury

I've also heard Saudi money is untaxed but someone else probably knows better on that. Might be BS

The fact he got paid that and never won a fight is immense.

If he'd lost a couple of fights in the UFC he'd have come out with naff all for the second and subsequent fights. You're absolutely right.

 

[El Panteron]

@ArtardFiesta explain yourself

 

[Doctor Grudge]

No, of course not. He'd not only have to fight a bunch but WIN like 3-6 times in a row to make what he made in his boxing "career". And that's only after Dana gave him a the best contract offer in the UFC after years of negotiating.

That's not to mention he still has a very strong contract in PFL. His opponent alone is guaranteed a million dollars. So it's not like it's just because he got "lucky" boxing (this criticism makes no sense, his plan was always to box a champion, and he was able to do just that)

You have to be a UFC mark to really think he'd make the same amount. There's a reason why he left.

 

[5crew]

No way would he have made that much in UFC/MMA within the same time frame or even a few years a longer.

In UFC he can't even have his own sponsors when fighting. I highly doubt the 8m price tag for fighting Jones. I'm not sure where the number came from or started. I don't follow MMA news out of fights.

 

[ArtardFiesta]

@ArtardFiesta explain yourself

i'm just a artard

 

[CasualBot]

Francis Ngannou Career Earnings

Ufc: approximately $3 million dollars

$22,500

$124,000

$128,500

$90,000

$580,000

$225,000

$320,000

$790,000

$640,000


Boxing: $30 million in two fights.

Tyson Fury $10m
Anthony Joshua $20m

^ Here ^

There is no discussion.

Dana honks & lies like Trumpets.

Don't be dumb.

 

[blaseblase]

According to Dana he offered Ngannou 8 million to fight Jon Jones. Ngannou made 10 million fighting Fury.

Assuming that 8 million number is true, it was a one time offer specifically against Jon Jones due to the magnitude of the fight. Had Ngannou lost his pay would have gone down significantly. Had Ngannou won but then fought a less popular fighter, his pay would have gone down significantly.

Ngannou said it was one big number but nothing else behind it, implying he would have gone back down to normal championship pay after that fight, or even less had he lost.

There's no way the UFC offer could come close to what Ngannou has made so far unless Ngannou v Jones became a trilogy or unless they had included the ability to box in his contract.

 

[vivi]

Let’s face it even if Ngannou had beaten Jones and got the 8M, if his next fight wasn’t a draw that the UFC felt would justify the 8M pay they would absolutely have found a way to screw him over to avoid paying him that amount.

Fwiw I think it’s pretty obvious Frank made more money boxing for however long it’ll last. But it’s not as black and white as that as I think on top of pay, freedom and respect are important to him. Not to mention the toll training for MMA full time on his body vs boxing.

 

[El Fernas]

We have seen how much the UFC usually pays, the whole 8 million was just dancing around the actual number...that wasnt the purse, not a chance, that was an estimate of how much would he had made fighting Jones, then what? 1-2 more fights wouldnt pay the same, he loses 1, its over, no more pay at that level.

He made more in those 2 fights then his whole UFC career, was he overpaid tho? Hard to say, but those fights were not exactly great on PPV, they lost money on it, but Ngannou got paid.

 

[TaxCutz]

He would have made more IMO and be even more popular today. Seems like he really ruined his name in those boxing matches too.