Does anybody think Anderson might really be telling the truth?

[serr]

That's the problem with an aura like that. It's fine while you have it, but you can't have any suspicion of cheating or chemical assistance if you want to keep it otherwise it calls your entire legacy into question.

People are always going to judge a fighter who gets caught on PED's lower than a fighter who does not, regardless of testing of the time period, regardless of "rumors".

Saying a fighter like Fedor *might* have been using steroids just because he was fighting in an organization and era with poor testing is not nearly as damning as actually being caught red-handed using steroids.

And like drunk driving the assumption is generally that if you get caught using steroids that the odds of that being your first and only time using steroids is so remote it's laughable. You would literally have to be one of the unluckiest athletes in sports to be busted the first time you used it.

You would need extraordinary circumstances for the "first time using" excuse to be plausible. Amazingly, Silva actually had those circumstances (broken leg) and he completely blew it. His one chance to protect the bulk of his legacy and even actually garner sympathy was right in front of him but instead he's now just the butt of jokes.

Actually, getting caught using it the first time could be common since you have no expertise on test avoidance. Anderson got caught on like 4 different banned substances. I can't imagine he used them all in the past if he would get caught with all of them. Unless he stuck a catheter up his urethra and pissed too much of the fake urine out.

 

[serr]

No. He's lying but I do wonder if he only started PEDs as a result of his leg injury. I would hope that's the case at least.

This would be really believable since you would think he would be adept at passing drug tests by now. Why does he only get caught for FOUR different substances after the surgery? He used it to recover from the leg injury.

 

[Malthian]

Actually, getting caught using it the first time could be common since you have no expertise on test avoidance. Anderson got caught on like 4 different banned substances. I can't imagine he used them all in the past if he would get caught with all of them. Unless he stuck a catheter up his urethra and pissed too much of the fake urine out.

It was his first RANDOM test. That is part of what hurts him. IE, he wasn't expected to be tested. If he'd passed multiple random tests prior to this test, the "first time using" would be more credible.

 

[sp00k]

I used to be a HUGE Anderson Silva fan. The fact he got popped and didn't own up to it made me lose a significant amount of respect for him.

 

[dim_]

This would be really believable since you would think he would be adept at passing drug tests by now. Why does he only get caught for FOUR different substances after the surgery? He used it to recover from the leg injury.

All the positives came from the WADA lab at SMRTL Utah.

Quest who NSAC have used in the past and continue to use for anyone below the top 2-3 fights have lesser detection standards and didnt find anything.

So...

As far as the out of competition one goes, its the first time hes ever been tested out of competition.

As far as the in-competition one goes, it may well be the first time hes ever had a sample analysed by SMRTL

beyond that...

 

[Its just zo]

Technique is fine if you keep it standing, but the extra strength still helps you hit harder (*cough* Forrest Griffin KO).

The extra strength and endurance also helps when you're forced to grapple, especially athletes that are stronger than you. Anderson ended up on his back against a number of fighters.

So yes, Anderson's technique can be great, but that technique can be made less relevant if your opponent is a lot stronger or a better grappler or has a good chin.

Umm Forrest Griffin KO was a purely technical punch. It was the opposite of a power punch. It was a jab on the button that made Griffins Brian shift in his head suddenly and abruptly.

It was not a power punch and even if he was roiding it had nothing to do with it.

I don't understand why people say Anderson was on roids blah blah blah. Was Anderson ever a big muscular guy? His body is like mine, and I'm not in roids.

 

[Its just zo]

To take advantage of roids you have to work out. It never ever looked like Anderson was some big iron pumper.

 

[hypocalking]

TS doesn't grasp basic comprehension. Of course roids can give you better technique. You will be less fatigued on roids and can practice your technique more hence giving you better technique.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

This would be really believable since you would think he would be adept at passing drug tests by now. Why does he only get caught for FOUR different substances after the surgery? He used it to recover from the leg injury.

Wait, he used a steroid that makes bones brittle to heal from a broken bone?

Umm Forrest Griffin KO was a purely technical punch. It was the opposite of a power punch. It was a jab on the button that made Griffins Brian shift in his head suddenly and abruptly.

It was not a power punch and even if he was roiding it had nothing to do with it.

I don't understand why people say Anderson was on roids blah blah blah. Was Anderson ever a big muscular guy? His body is like mine, and I'm not in roids.

To take advantage of roids you have to work out. It never ever looked like Anderson was some big iron pumper.

You guys are delusional. You probably believe every word he said.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

i got fixed

keep swinging from dem nutz.

 

[skombolis]

You honestly think he juiced against Forrest Griffin? Forrest had no chance. Forrest was a plodding brawler. Anderson was a pinpoint accurate counter puncher. Forrest was tailor made to get blown up by Andy, much like Leben.



That's entirely possible. But let's look at it like this. If they really wanted to lie, they could've constructed a much better lie, a more believable one. The penis pills defense reflected poorly on Andy (embarrassing) and is goofy as hell to begin with.

If they really wanted to sell a lie, they could've come up with a more elaborate one. Like, say the doctor prescribed him the steroid when he was healing his leg, or the doctor mixed up a medication for the leg, etc. etc.

a doctor is the worst excuse you can use there's a record of everything. And it's still on Silva see what's in the pills he's taking and that it isn't on the banned substance list. And on top of it, they need a doctor to throw himself under the bus and it still does no good.

You don't know what you might get with something made on the street and they needed to go with something that he was trying to be discreet about out of pride. And they has their own experts test the drugs to prove they were contaminated. It's plausible only to the effect that some pro people might have believed it if they could have gotten through their lies by keeping their stories straight or remembering the lies or bringing documentation.

Not to mention, Silva simply hasn't been believable from the beginning and every single step of the way he has come across as someone just desperate for a way out once be got caught. The two different tests his failed and the anti-anxiety pills is just more damning evidence. People can believe him if they choose. I think they will find themselves in the vast minority.

 

[Charles Lee Ray]

Anderson is lying. I'm totally embarrassed for him and will never believe another word he says.

Erectile dysfunction is the lamest excuse ever invented for taking an imported steroid cocktail rather than taking a proven aid like Viagra.

The guy's a millionaire who spends time in the USA and he doesn't have Viagra? Instead he gets snake oil from Thailand? Yeah, right.

 

[ZFury]

Anderson tested clean on Jan 19 blood test. He then fails the pre and post fight urine test. Why would a competent athlete that somehow cheated the other tests his opponents failed, take masteron a week and a half before the fight? Makes no sense.

 

[L0ki]

I think there's a shot he might be telling the truth.

It just sounds too random to be made up.

He knew about the hearing months in advance and had plenty of time to come up with something better than E.D.

On top of that, it's very easy to see how a pill for erectile dysfunction could contain some type of steroid.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I think there's a shot he might be telling the truth.

It just sounds too random to be made up.

He knew about the hearing months in advance and had plenty of time to come up with something better than E.D.

On top of that, it's very easy to see how a pill for erectile dysfunction could contain some type of steroid.

It wasn't a pill. It was a vial of liquid. Why would a tested athlete take a random vial of liquid?

He also changed his story about when he took it during the hearing. Come on. Don't be so guilible.

 

[dim_]

Anderson tested clean on Jan 19 blood test. He then fails the pre and post fight urine test. Why would a competent athlete that somehow cheated the other tests his opponents failed, take masteron a week and a half before the fight? Makes no sense.

as already stated.

SMRTL (Wada accredited lab in Utah detected steroids)
Quest Diagnostics (2 bit lab in Vegas didnt)

Highly possible that this was the first time his in fight samples had ever gone to the WADA lab.

 

[jerzeerat]

Anyone doubting the effectiveness of PEDs not just on strength but on technique need look no further than its effect on Vitor. Remember Vitor's knockout of Rockhold?? Yes Vitor was massively muscle-jacked for that fight - but he also had a lot of quickness and technique. Supporting the views of those who have posted about PEDs that the PEDs helped Vitor not just in strength, but also in speed and technique.

Fast-forward to a PED-less Vitor who got completely and quickly dismantled by Weidman - and physically looked like a shadow of his former self.

While no one will know for sure except for AS and his confidantes - I think it is highly likely he was on PEDs for a good deal of his career. He didn't use them to over-muscle his body like some do, but that doesn't mean they didn't aid him in having quicker, stronger, and better technique than he otherwise would have had.

If a person seems to be a super-human fighter to the extent that it seems to good to be true - maybe it isn't true. One need look no further than Lance Armstrong for an example outside the sport.

This steroid test failure is a big big permanent asterisk on Anderson's entire legacy.

 

[megamidget]

QUESTION:

What ever happened with " I took it because of my leg" defense?
http://www.mmamania.com/2015/2/28/8...ll-admit-ped-usage-was-for-healing-broken-leg

The Nevada State Athletic Commission disciplinary hearing for former UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva does not have a set date in March, but according to a story published by Brazilian website UOL on Saturday, the MMA icon and his team are preparing his defense, with Silva reportedly planning to admit to using several banned substances.

The report makes clear that Silva will insist that his use of performance enhancing drugs wasn't to gain an advantage on his opponent, but rather as an aid in his recovery from the broken leg suffered in his December 2013 loss to Chris Weidman. Lawyers will also argue that the amount of the substances found in his system were minimal, thus giving him no advantage over his January 31 opponent, Nick Diaz.

What's the point of doing the "my dog ate it" defense if you already publicly stated a real reason for usage? You just look like an idiot.

Also, why didn't the UFC back him up? They washed their hands fucking clean of this trainwreck. I don't blame them, it was circus to begin with, but they already acknowledged that Silvas PED usage was to heal a broken leg.

 

[J0N0]

I think there's a shot he might be telling the truth.

It just sounds too random to be made up.

He knew about the hearing months in advance and had plenty of time to come up with something better than E.D.

On top of that, it's very easy to see how a pill for erectile dysfunction could contain some type of steroid.

yeah, except *as I understand it* he wasn't able to provide a sample of the stuff.. yet claimed it's been tested and was the culprit.. but had no paperwork showing those tests. And if he could supposedly get a sample to test, why the heck couldn't he get a sample for the commission? There's so many obvious lies it's untrue. The only question in my mind is whether it's a new thing or he's always been on it.

 

[oscerthegrouch]

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