dodson/moraga doctor stoppage?

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  1. itsmeman

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    I keep reading about the Dodson/Moraga fight being a doctor stoppage. Maybe I missed something, but didn't Moraga just quit. The doctor clearly says to the ref, "I'll keep an eye on him". He turns to Moraga, then turns back to the ref, and it looks like the doctor says, "he quits". Then Moraga jumps up like he is upset. Maybe it was the doctor's decision, but this is how I read the situation. I didn't read anything about how this played out. Did anyone else notice this?
     
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    Seemed to me that Moraga was trying to make a dramatic show. Either that or the referee (Yamasaki?) completely screwed him.
     
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    thought he quit himself
     
  4. Skydome

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    Quote from Moraga

     
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    Moraga can say whatever he wants now, but the doctor clearly said he would keep an eye on him. Then Moraga and/or his cornerman starts talking to the doctor, and THEN the doctor turns to the ref and waves it off.

    The doctor originally gave the OK to continue. Moraga said something that we couldn't hear. Doctor then stops the fight.

    Looks like Moraga quit to me.
     
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    I remember the doctor giving the okay to continue and his corner saying no that he is done. Doctor says he is okay to ref,ref looks over towards corner and they say to sto it then he signals for it to stop.
     
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    Moraga goes back to his corner, sits on the stool.

    Cornerman says "We're ok Ref(Actually the doctor)
    Doctor says he wants to see his nose
    Somebody yells "he broke it"
    Cornerman says it was just a cut
    Cornermen start giving strategy advice
    Moraga says "Yeah, i hear you"
    Moraga asks if his nose is cut or broken
    Corner says just cut
    Cornerman asks the doctor to let Moraga continue fighting, says it's only one round
    Doctor immediately starts shaking his head no.

    Cut to Dodsons corner.

    Nothing on TV at least indicated that Moraga wanted the fight stopped
     
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    I got the impression that was Moragas corner trying to motivate him. Think they said "This kids done" in reference to Dodson. Moraga was having a decent round before getting clipped
     
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    The thing is, we know the doctor was going to let the fight continue. So that makes what Moraga said seem shady. Maybe someone who is better at reading lips could check it out, but again, after the doctor looks at Moraga, it looks like he said that Moraga quit.
     
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    Nailed it.

    You can't see the doctor say he'll keep an eye on it. I think that was the corner. I only saw the doctor shake his head.
     
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    I didn't hear any of that, I listened to his corner a few times with the volume up really loud because I was interested in finding out why the fight was stopped. The portion that was showed on TV at least showed Moragas corner begging for the doctor not to stop the fight with the doctor looking skeptical.

    All Moraga asks for is a drink of water and if his nose is broken or just cut, he could have asked the doctor to stop the fight after the TV changed to Dodsons corner, but I find that unlikely

    I just don't think they were able to stop the bleeding in time so the doctor wanted to stop the fight
     
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    Sorry, but this is complete crap. The doctor clearly says to the ref, "I'll keep an eye on it". He looks at Moraga, then looks back at the ref and it appears he said, "he quit". You and Moraga's version of events don't follow what I saw with my own eyes, specifically concerning the doctor.
     
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    Are you guys just making sh!t up? The doctor clearly says it.
     
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    I listened to it 3 or 4 times. I can quote exactly what every person said in that corner if you want me to.
     
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    The doctor says nothing like that.
     
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    Wouldn't blame him if he didn't want to keep going.

    Broken noses suck.
     
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    I do remember the stoppage being somewhat odd...

    Gonna re-watch tonight.
     
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    I heard it too. You're not crazy. I also don't believe that Moraga would just quit like that.
     
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    Moraga definitely did not quit. No idea where you're getting this from, you can clearly see and hear them trying to continue the fight.
     
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    Since you know everything that was said, what is it that the doctor says to the ref then? He says something to that ref, which looks like he is going to let the fight continue. He looks back at Moraga for a split second, then looks back and say something to the ref, and the fight is over. The doctor didn't look like he was the one who wanted to stop the fight. But since you know every word that was spoken, what did the doctor say?
     

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