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Well, I can respect that because you are at least consistent. If you aren't for the coma dude leeching off you for life you can't be for a rape pregnancy ban.Rape pregnancies is at least a good debatable topic but it doesn't justify the vast vast majority that are done for convenience. I would be much happier if those were illegal and then rape pregnancies were discussed.
There's certainly some nuance here for the vast majority of people, because most people wouldn't be in favor of murder charges being brought up against a woman that takes Plan B to prevent a fertilized zygote, a potential human, from implanting. Other people are fine with preventing that fetus from being born when it is still a lump of cells on up to when it is viable and can live on its own or can actually suffer. At each milestone there is an argument for a fetus to get more rights vs the mother or just outright immutable rights. But I doubt you want a fertilized egg to have the same rights as an adult human.
That was my point early on in the thread, the reason for legality of abortion at some stage should be well defined and based on some ethical framework or conception of rights. If they found a way to make an abortion in the late second trimester less yucky than the doctor in the video described it, that shouldn't change whether or not it should be legal.
As for the recent abortion bills, I think the general idea is fine, that if a birth would likely kill a woman or the baby won't live or will just be in agony in its short life anyway, sounds good to me. A baby born in a vegetative state shouldn't be on life support indefinitely, and a woman shouldn't have to likely die for a fetus that does not yet have a wired brain that would allow suffering etc.
However I think the bills written to include 'mental health' as grounds for abortions up to the day before birth are not a good idea nor moral and really just asking for backlash.