Opinion Do you think people would be taking the covid more seriously if...

[whippersnapper]

People are taking covid too seriously. It's time to stop shutting down schools and contact tracing kids who will recover and be fine. Grandpa and grandma and the unhealthy need to take precautions. But most everyone else is just taking it too seriously and living in fear. People can manage their own lives. We don't need the government to "keep us safe"

This is the USA, we have freedoms in the Constitution, and those should not be discarded by the politicians locking things down and mandating restrictions.

I remember when it was "2 weeks to flatten the curve."

Fauci has been wrong the whole time, there is nothing he has told us to do that stopped the virus from spreading.

The virus will spread, but at least some places in the USA are free.

 

[tonni]

No.

 

[GtehMVP]

People would take it more seriously if there wasn’t a cult formed around Trump’s opinion and Trump downplayed it from the get go because he wanted the stock market to hold on and it magically go away

The problem is the mixed messaging, and outright lies.

For months we had "experts" telling us not to wear masks, then people in certain countries were being arrested for not complying with mask rules

Anyone with a lick of common sense knows they said not to wear masks initially because of the shortages of PPE for hospitals, even Fauci admitted that.

It's like a chick lying about her weight on a dating app, there's no trust

Secondly, we have the WHO telling the world that lockdowns are a last resort only, to give overwhelmed hospital staff a break/chance to regroup. Despite hospitals laying off nurses, governments in those areas are locking things down based on cases alone, as in my area.

Then we have BLM riots and protests not discouraged, while churches are family gatherings are prohibited

Trump downplaying things is low on the totem pole

 

[TrueBias]

They would take it more seriously if it was a serious threat to themselves. Fact is, it barely causes an inconvenient cold for some, and literally nothing for others. Those groups are the vast majority.

If it was really serious, you wouldn't have to bargain and desperately convince people to do all they could to avoid getting it. They just naturally would, because the threat would be real.

It comes down to fear and the fact of the matter is, most people don't fear COVID.

Agreed like a motherfucker.

I wear a mask when i have to, knowing full well im still at risk. When im not forced, i dont wear it and have zero fear.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Source?

Heart:
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2020/09/03/what-covid-19-is-doing-to-the-heart-even-after-recovery

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...reveals-heart-complications-covid-19-patients

Lungs:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...th/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...oronavirus/what-coronavirus-does-to-the-lungs

Endocrine System:

https://academic.oup.com/jes/article/4/11/bvaa144/5916481

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7266418/

 

[hillelslovak87]

Agreed like a motherfucker.

I wear a mask when i have to, knowing full well im still at risk. When im not forced, i dont wear it and have zero fear.

The effectiveness of a mask doesn't change whether or not you're required to use it.

For some people it seems mitigation is too high-minded a concept....

 

[Ruprecht]

Mind you my state just went full lockdown in the last couple of hours, even more severely than when the pandemic was first recognised.
Everyone except "essential workers" are housebound for at least the next six days. Masks are mandatory.
Quarantine for returning travellers was breached and no-one noticed until someone took seriously ill. Started with one family with members attending university, working in aged care and major retail. Contact tracing wasn't fast enough to catch it apparently.
There's been a run on the supermarkets, even though they aren't closing.
Ridiculously, they've even called it Codename: Circuit Breaker...

 

[BIKES!]

China was actually being blamed for it and the international organizations were actually doing something against then? I understand there are some really pretentious people out there and some are just straight up not smart, but its not a good look for the international organizations when they don't stand up against this type of stuff.

Spot on. If the MSM and Democrat Reich didn’t bend over for China and so everything possible to make it a Trump issue people would perhaps listen to the tabloids like CNN etc...

 

[TUFNewb]

Even if this just made kids sick like influenza does people would take it much more serious. Society doesn't care about really old people.

 

[12ga.]

All I'd do is develope viruses if I were an adversary of the west. Fuck expensive nukes, 6th gen air planes, destroyers, etc...Karens burry them.

this virus aint shit. Yes kills those with co-morbidities, like flu does, and old. Yet we don't weld door shut on them and those serving them. Instead we shut down everything but them...asinine.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

China was actually being blamed for it and the international organizations were actually doing something against then?

Yes.

Since our elites are more interested than taking advantage of the situation by seeking more control over our daily lives, and having no interest in making China suffer any consequences for their negligence, at best, resulting in over a million deaths worldwide... then free minded individuals will reject their bullshit.

I understand there are some really pretentious people out there and some are just straight up not smart, but its not a good look for the international organizations when they don't stand up against this type of stuff.

Or, they're bought off by China, like the WHO.

 

[ShinkanPo]

No.

Covidians gonna covidian

 

[Cirris]

China was actually being blamed for it and the international organizations were actually doing something against then? I understand there are some really pretentious people out there and some are just straight up not smart, but its not a good look for the international organizations when they don't stand up against this type of stuff.

Honestly, it's partially the issue.

I really think it boils down to the Media's insatiable need to tarnish Trump so much that they dismissed every angle that didn't involve Trump and overplayed EVERY THING Trump did, right down to making an FDA approved drug into this deadly arsenic pill because Trump mentioned it.

When you got the media acting like raving buffoons over this, it actually turned the population off to the actual dangers.

If the News Media actually reported the news in a consistently professional manner, maybe people would heed their warnings.

 

[Prutfis]

There are varying degrees of "bad". Do people realize that this is a threat to the more vulnerable population? Sure. Do they also realize that the vast, VAST majority of people will not be effected by it? Yes. Hence the apathy.

If this was a serious virus, people would not be so willing to skirt guidelines. If this virus was a risk to everyone, where exposure could mean death or serious health issues to themselves if they got a whiff of it, they would not be chomping at the bit to get back to normal, and going to Walmart to pick up some DVD's or a TV. They would be deathly afraid of it, and praying for a cure before they dare took a chance and stepped outside. It's simply not that serious to most people. Even the talking heads on TV telling you it's serious are getting caught breaking their own rules on a weekly basis. Shows you how seriously they're taking it.

You do know there can be massive after effects from Covid right? Also in young people. Recent numbers from Sweden indicate 20% of new infections have also been 17 - 19 year olds. It´s not quite as simple as you simpletons want it to be.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

There is a strong sub-culture in America of : I am ok , so screw everyone else.

You have the same sort of thinking in many countries , many that are far worse than the US as far as selfishness goes. Japan and Western Europe tend to be more considerate of society. Americans being the individualists they are, tend to sometimes bring outthe bad side of individualism.

What about the effects of the economy on society? What about the jobs lost? The small business forced to close down? The people getting evicted/foreclosed? The people going bankrupt because of the lockdowns? What do you call people that isn't considerate of that? People seem to have tunnel vision and can't see the bigger picture of the damage that's being done.

Technically Covid-19 has over a 99% survival rate. If people want to virtue signal endangering people they should go back and look at previous years for all transmittable infections/virus and death rates globally. The risks has always been there and will always be there, even seasonal influenza is deadly to hundreds of thousands of people globally. That's not even counting the risks associated with accidents.

Lockdowns aren't the answer, every country has done it and every country is still dealing with it.

 

[HunterAcosta]

What about the effects of the economy on society? What about the jobs lost? The small business forced to close down? The people getting evicted/foreclosed? The people going bankrupt because of the lockdowns? What do you call people that isn't considerate of that? People seem to have tunnel vision and can't see the bigger picture of the damage that's being done.

Technically Covid-19 has over a 99% survival rate. If people want to virtue signal endangering people they should go back and look at previous years for all transmittable infections/virus and death rates globally. The risks has always been there and will always be there, even seasonal influenza is deadly to hundreds of thousands of people globally. That's not even counting the risks associated with accidents.

Lockdowns aren't the answer, every country has done it and every country is still dealing with it.

So what do you propose wouId be a good solution (s)?

 

[kenetics]

They would take it more seriously if it was a serious threat to themselves. Fact is, it barely causes an inconvenient cold for some, and literally nothing for others. Those groups are the vast majority.

If it was really serious, you wouldn't have to bargain and desperately convince people to do all they could to avoid getting it. They just naturally would, because the threat would be real.

It comes down to fear and the fact of the matter is, most people don't fear COVID.

Even if the disease was worst, muricans still wouldn't change their behaviors . The constitution nuts will never believe that one day a disease worst than the black plauge or spanish flu will appear again.

Covid was a wake up call on how ignorant people can be .

 

[kenetics]

No. It would be taken more seriously if every single goddamn one of the people demanding you take it seriously weren't caught breaking their own rules when they think the cameras are off, if they didn't give passes to their own BLM supporters, if there wasn't a world leader who just a few days ago called it "an opportunity for a reset of society", if they haven't changed their minds 50 goddamn times, and if they gave some timeline or set of circumstances to what they're asking instead of "15 days to slow the spread" 6 months ago.

Science and research is always changing lol.

 

[DragRacer]

Exactly this.

The hysterics we’ve been deluged with on a daily basis for the last four years has diluted our collective ability to take anything the media says seriously.

Especially since (like stated above) everyone knows people who have gotten Corona and either didn’t even know they had it, or had symptoms like a mild cold.

If this were a virus like Ebola going pandemic, there would be no need for rules, everyone would be self-quarantining voluntarily after seeing a few of their neighbors dropping dead in the street bleeding out of their fucking eyeballs and asses.

Respect to those who have lost their lives to Corona this year. But failure to acknowledge that the average age of a Coronavirus victim is older than the average life expectancy is just intellectual dishonesty.

Honestly, it's partially the issue.

I really think it boils down to the Media's insatiable need to tarnish Trump so much that they dismissed everything angle that didn't involve Trump and overplayed EVERY THING Trump did, right down to making an FDA approved drug into this deadly arsenic pill because Trump mentioned it.

When you got the media acting like raving buffoons over this, it actually turned the population off to the actual dangers.

If the News Media actually reported the news in a consistently professional manner, maybe people would heed their warnings.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

So what do you propose wouId be a good solution (s)?

Safety precautions with masks, social distance, disinfect/clean, and let herd immunity/herd protection work. Increase testing and have it mandatory for locations to be tested on the spot if they want to be open max capacity, this would be more for sporting events/concerts. Social distance line for testing, once results come in they will either be allowed or denied entry. 99% survival rate with millions already infected and recovered, which means they would have partial immunity - so they will be immune for a certain amount of time (usually months) so they won't be able to catch it or spread.

They focus so much on total number of confirmed cases, but with a survival/recovery rate of over 99% that's a lot of people with partial immunity that can't get infected, and can't spread it. So it will be harder to spread overall because it won't be able to chain-link infection without running into someone that is already immune from partial immunity. Which is how all viruses like this die down in the past, or eventually get weaker to the point where it's not a state of emergency type of situation.

Curfews and lockdowns don't make sense, like the time of day/night makes a difference with your chances of getting infected. Walking through the door mask on, sit down mask off - are oxymoron situations.

Plus crime rates and shootings hit a record all time high during lockdowns in many states and cities. Also cities and business were destroyed with riots/looting during lockdowns. Anti-lockdown protest happens as well in other countries. So you have your lockdowns, then you have your increase crime and shootings, then you have riots/protests/looting due to lockdowns where thousands of people are in the streets anyway - and these protests lasted months.

Then you add up all the job loss, business closures from bankruptcy, evictions/foreclosures, and a destroyed economy. So what are lockdowns really doing to help? Seems like they cause more problems than they solve and it doesn't seem to prevent mass gatherings in the end anyway.

Even with everyone celebrating the elections, everyone seemed to forget about covid and social distancing during those celebrations. That happened from both sides of the political spectrum, so people can't just blame it on one party.