As a fighter. I mean 15 years ago in 2003, when he was 35, had crazy time rolling with a who's who in MMA, taekwon do champion, but black belt, etc. It was a weird cross road for him I imagine. He was making money from broadcasting, tv shows like fear factor etc. I'm not saying Joe was going to go on some tear but back then drug tests were lax and he could have passed them, he could have had a fight or two. It's too late now. I remember him calling out Wesley snipes. I think Joe admitted that much that he doesn't react well to getting hit in the face. He knows how dangerous it is, and at that point he was already making money from other ventures. But I know he has a little regret.