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585 fighters on roster. I'd be shocked if more than 30 of them are using PED's.
Is that a typo... or are you drunk?
585 fighters on roster. I'd be shocked if more than 30 of them are using PED's.
You realize PEDs don't stop you from being a fatass right?
Dude doesn't seem to give a shit about his body. I could see him roiding.
Probably not they all take something at some point
Yes. Fighting isn't like cycling or weight lifting. There are a lot of variables. It's not so hard to imagine someone doing well based on training, skill, and natural aptitude.
I've always found it a bit laughable that anyone believed Lance Armstrong won all those Tours de France clean against a dirty field, tho. You're literally sitting on a seat and pumping pedals all day. No way a clean cyclist has a chance.
This, MMA fans are going from extreme naivety to extreme paranoia. Anyone who is not surprised by the Jones news is not going to do an extreme flip flop.
Some of the higher estimates by fighters are probably guys excusing their own weaknesses and shortcomings. It does happen.
I think it's reasonable to say 30-40% of the fighters are clean. It's difficult to say exactly who though, unattainable physiques are evidence of doping but attainable physiques are not evidence of being clean.
The non cynic in me would say about 80% are clean but the cynic in me is saying it's about 50/50.
haha. that's a good one. if anything, he's one of the guys that i would not be surprised at all to find out was roiding.
I would say it's not too far off 50/50 people regularly clean / dirty.
I would say the % of guys who have dabbled would be much higher.
Curious,
everyone's in here talking percentages. What's it based on? Gut feel? Star alignment? Nobody's posting sources for their numbers. I've heard some MMA fighters say certain numbers but those are the only sources I've really found relevant here. Do you guys have any other sources?
Totally gut feel.
I good part of it is also due to ability to pay / higher stakes when that win cash is that much higher etc.
Man, if I was an MMA fighter that thought I could be champ and found out two of my last 3 opponents juiced, I'd start up as well.
When in Rome, right? Money doesn't grow on trees, but it grows off PEDs.
Pretty much, I'm not pro PEDs at all but this is these guys livelihood.
Personally I think they would be few and far between. One only has to look at cycling to realise how easily it is to get away with doping, and they're by far the most tested athletes in the world. Albeit they're probably micro-dosing and only getting marginal benefits from doing so.
Whereas UFC fighters/NFL players/soccer stars don't get tested even 1/10 as often, so it would be difficult to believe that serious doping isn't very commonly practised, right?
Surely one would have to be very naive to think otherwise in my opinion
Personally I think they would be few and far between. One only has to look at cycling to realise how easily it is to get away with doping, and they're by far the most tested athletes in the world. Albeit they're probably micro-dosing and only getting marginal benefits from doing so.
Whereas UFC fighters/NFL players/soccer stars don't get tested even 1/10 as often, so it would be difficult to believe that serious doping isn't very commonly practised, right?
Surely one would have to be very naive to think otherwise in my opinion