Do You Still Think JDS Has Better Boxing?

SCIRCA said:
So what are you telling me? Cain wouldn't keep his hands up knowing that JDS has serious power?
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Nope, I'm telling you there is more to "keeping your hands up" to boxing defense.
 
icex48x said:
When they met in the middle of the octagon tonight, JDS beat him to the punch, and would do so every time, Cain kept the fight against the cage for a reason..
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That's such bias bullshit.

JDS beat him to the punch sometimes, but most of the time Cain landed first and much harder.
 
Shaddows said:
Make them both fight in a boxing match, and Junior would KTFO or win 9 out of 10 matches.
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there no possible way for you to know that, or even assume that really. No question that the threat of a takedown helps Cain out tremendously, but there is no reason to call him out on his striking. It would be closer than in MMA, and given the variables (lack of tds and more chances for JDS to display his chin and power) it would potentially favor JDS, but that is pure speculation; 9 out of 10 is a joke.
 
I never thought that Junior had better striking than Cain. He may have more power in his hands, but that's about it.

Cain strings together combinations, has better footwork and actually is capable of keeping his hands up for more than a round.
 
JDS has the better boxing. Imagine that fight if both fighters decided to keep it standing without any clinching or takedowns.
 
Jew Jif Shoes said:
If you've watched MMA for this long and don't see how much the fact that Cain was constantly trying for takedowns helped his striking, I don't know what to tell you.

JDS is a better pure striker than Cain, but Cain is more well rounded.
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This. JDS does have better boxing but Cain is an MMA artist, more well rounded and is able to use it more effectively. This is not a boxing match.
 
Michael13 said:
That's such bias bullshit.

JDS beat him to the punch sometimes, but most of the time Cain landed first and much harder.
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I'm the bais one? lol ok..


Oh and btw, Cain still hits like a girl. :icon_lol:
 
Put them in a boxing ring with boxing rules.. than we'll see who is the better boxer. With MMA you have too many other factors.
 
The clowns who assert that JDS is the better striker, literally have no leg to stand on. They claim it's due to the supposed takedown threat but there is no way to disprove that. JDS could get beat down 10 or 100 straight rounds and sheep will claim he some kind of elite boxer just because he happens to be one dimensional.

His "boxing" consisted of slow sloppy overhands hooks, no jab, no footwork or head movement. Cain is more well rounded AND a better striker period.
 
Did you already forget what happened the rare instances JDS was able to get away from the fence? (Hint: It's why Cain's entire strategy was to avoid boxing with JDS.)
 
I think in a pure boxing match JDS would have his number all day.
 
Uhm... Cain would get murdered by JDS under kickboxing or boxing rules. So no, he's not a better striker by any means. But the threat of takedowns completely changes everything. It's the same reason why GSP can shut people down on the feet even though the only striking technique he uses with effectiveness is the jab (and sometimes the lead hook)-- if people only had reason to fear his jab then they would just walk him down and beat him up.

And it's hard to learn to strike well against a wrestler when the focus of your training camp is on sparring with other good strikers instead of sparring with good wrestlers. JDS's camp probably failed him more than he himself did in that regard.
 
"My striking is light years ahead of this guy, so lets avoid boxing at all cost."



Said no one ever...
 
Boxing, dirty boxing, boxing while worried about being pushed against the cage, boxing while worried about a TD, boxing while worried about kicks, boxing with elbows, boxing while worried about getting bitten in the ear, they all complicate things.

If you want to know who has better pure boxing, you'd have to see them have a boxing match.
And they won't do that for you, unless you have a million bucks to give them.
 
Michael13 said:
It's been made very clear in their last 2 fights that Cain's boxing is light years ahead of Junior's.

For years, people have mistaken Juniors knockout power for elite level boxing........Cain proves otherwise.
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its not his boxing that won that fight and allowed him to land so much....but obviously thats lost on you (and the rest of the morons in the sherdog hw.)
 
Syclical said:
The clowns who assert that JDS is the better striker, literally have no leg to stand on. They claim it's due to the supposed takedown threat but there is no way to disprove that. JDS could get beat down 10 or 100 straight rounds and sheep will claim he some kind of elite boxer just because he happens to be one dimensional.

His "boxing" consisted of slow sloppy overhands hooks, no jab, no footwork or head movement. Cain is more well rounded AND a better striker period.
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Exactly. It's just trolls out in force and people that lost money tonight.

It's disgusting to hear people say JDS has better boxing when it's crystal clear that he doesn't.

Go back and watch the fight again, and look at Cain beat Junior in most of the boxing exchanges very easily. the threat of the takedown nonsense is ridiculous.

Cain is better in every aspect of MMA.....and there's nothing that can prove otherwise.
 
Here we go simpletons, try to comprehend that it is possible for someone to use the takedown threat and still be a better striker. JDS striking is overrated as hell and it showed tonight, takedown threat be damned. Cain's hands and movement were far superior, at some point you have to exit fantasy land and look at what's in front of you.

NVM let's continue to believe that JDS is "light years" ahead of striking than Cain...

Even he doesn't believe that.
 
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