do you rate Kamaru's legacy as greater than GSP's?

[Trabaho]

No. GSP 1

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

usmans ground game sucks.

Usman sucks at doing damage on the ground and he sucks at submissions. he is only good at keeping you down and blanketing you

Very true, I could never remember him submitting anyone, I had to quickly look it up because I can't remember everything that happens, from memory I don't remember him tapping anyone, so apparently he has 1 submission win which was TUF. Thats really crappy considering how many times he's on the ground

 

[2004 account]

Usman is up there but hasn't quite taken over gsp as ww goat yet imo

 

[Black Blood]

Nah

 

[mkt]

Are we back to this after Usman wins 1 out of his last 4 fights? Please, no. He didn't do nearly as much as GSP in his career, and at 38, there's no way he'll catch up.

 

[mkt]

If Usman is the GOAT, what does that make Edwards? The T-Rex of WW?

 

[Romulas]

1. GSP
2. Hughes
3. Usman

Laser precision list!

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

GSP is the GOAT, let alone WW GOAT.
No person on the planet can put Marty above him. Usman's reign was ostensibly worse than Woodley's.

 

[FriskyRandy]

Stupid fucking thread, and I hope you know that OP.

 

[Dr. Rose]

Yes. No one is remotely close. GSP was a once ever fighter but that aside... he was competing in a MUCH better era for the sport. GSP fought the champions from multiple other promotions and ended Jon Fitch's 16 fight win streak (his only loss over an 8 year stretch). He brutally stopped most people's #2 WW of all time twice.

WW was completely stagnant by the time Usman took the belt off of Woodley and there wasn't even the potential competition to put together a GOAT resume even if he was as good as GSP (which he wasn't). Jorge Masvidal never strung together more than 3 consecutive wins in his entire UFC career and he got 2 TITLE SHOTS in Usman's reign. Nuff said.

You could also add, with his loss to Hughes, it might be one of the few times someone can argue that they were winning before they lost.

If that submission hold was put on a second or two later, GSP survives the round and likely won the fight.

 

[MDoza]

I actually laughed out loud when I read this

 

[ThaiSexPills]

No.

Usman is a clear number 2 though I think

 

[Ares Black]

Lolol no

 

[GrantB13]

Hell no.

 

[cburm]

I

in the welterweight division

Id have to run back the stats on consecutive defenses gsp did have a few losses and like 6 consecutive defenses

But gsp his run was more of a story and fued with Hughes that drew people in.

If kamaru can get the belt back and defend some more he could possibly

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

He's not even #2

 

[Substance Abuse]

What kind of bullshit thread is this? Lol

 

[AndrewGolota48]

GSP is GOAT level but Usman is right below that tier, one the most elite fighters we've ever seen!

 

[CrimsonFan]

If Usman wins the belt back, defends against Edwards, and then defends it like another time then maybe. But gsp would have that MW title win over him. So he would probably have to move up and get that belt too.

Basically it's not happening.

 

[Bret 'The Hitman' Hart]

Nothing against Usman but no.

GSP had a more successful career