do you like to do certain techniques without the gi that should be more effective..

[blanko]

with the gi and vise a versa? I really like to overhook/wizzer the arm of my opponent when he is in my guard (any kind; butterfly/full/half) but i am not that good with the overhook when i do gi. In theory it should be more effective with the gi because it sets up the gi choke beautifully... anyone else have something like this?

 

[codemonkey76]

grab the far lapel, it will help keep the overhook nice and tight.... but you already no that, because you said it sets up the gi choke beautifully, now i am confused... what's your problem with it?

 

[codemonkey76]

on a side note, i am more effective with the rubber guard in the gi than no-gi

 

[blanko]

grab the far lapel, it will help keep the overhook nice and tight.... but you already no that, because you said it sets up the gi choke beautifully, now i am confused... what's your problem with it?

no problem, i just think it's funny that i am much more effective in no gi with the overhook than with the gi...

 

[Graunie]

no problem, i just think it's funny that i am much more effective in no gi with the overhook than with the gi...

I see what you are saying, but I wish I had your problem. I can't seem to keep a hold of that overhook without the gi. I blame it on my skinny arms but the real answer is I'm doing something wrong because the guy usually pulls his arm out.

 

[hayliks]

there're a ton of techniques that i do in no gi that are much more difficult to pull off in gi. you need to be more mobile and creative with defense in no gi. no gi > gi IMO

 

[Zankou]

The things I like in nogi that you can't get nearly as easily with gi are arm triangles (brabo/darce/anaconda etc) and the overhook game. It's much easier to get those with no-gi.

 

[txfighter13]

I try to keep my game as consistent as possible from gi to no-gi, and visa versa.

 

[BeRGLeZ]

there're a ton of techniques that i do in no gi that are much more difficult to pull off in gi. you need to be more mobile and creative with defense in no gi. no gi > gi IMO

:icon_chee!!

Alot of my subs in no-gi don't translate to gi very well (as Zankou mentioned the guillotines).

Since I've started training in the gi I've been trying to stick to techniques that I can apply in both (whilst learning sport specific techniques, I try not to base my game around them). I don't know how effective this approach is in the long run though.

 

[blanko]

I see what you are saying, but I wish I had your problem. I can't seem to keep a hold of that overhook without the gi. I blame it on my skinny arms but the real answer is I'm doing something wrong because the guy usually pulls his arm out.

i will tell you what i do.. Instead of grabbing my opponents arm with my bicep.. i press my forehand against my opponent's chest with the arm that i am overhooking with. Don't know why it works.. it just does...

 

[easy tiger]

Iirc, Baret Yoshida likes to take an overhook, then grab his non-overhook wrist with the overhooking hand and push the non-overhooking hand (or both if you can) on the opponent's chest/shoulder on the side of the overhook. I've tried it out and it helps me control the opponent quite well without the gi. I suck at working with overhooks with the gi. I'll stick with holding the collar and sleeves.