"Do you have to kill your opponent to become champ?"

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  1. Linelo Red Belt

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    This notion has been repeated alot since UFC 247.

    The answer is no but the majority of new UFC champs since 2016 finished their title fight.

    Of the ones that became new champ by decision they had 1 or more of the following; 2 to 1 (as high as 5 to 1) strike differential, near finish, stark damage advantage, dominant rounds, TDs w/top time, among other factors.

    Reyes did have a claim to win 48-47. The performance would however be among the least clear of UFC title winning performances since 2016. This may shed light on the judging and any preconceived notion about a standard for dethroning champs.

    Here are the title changes of;

    2019

    Usman over Woodley - Domination, Woodley outstruck 5 to 1
    Poirier over Holloway(Interim title) - Stark damage difference, dominant rounds for Poirier
    Adesanya over Whittaker - Finish
    Stipe over Cormier II - Finish
    Andrade over Rose - Finish
    Cejudo over Moraes(No incumbent champ)- Finish
    Zhang over Andrade - Finish
    Adesanya over Gastelum(Interim title) - Competitive fight but Gastelum outstruck 2 to 1, 10-8 minimum Rd 5.
    Volkanovski over Holloway - A struggle to even give Holloway 2 rds though 2 judges did.

    2018

    Valentina over Joanna(No incumbent champ) - Joanna at best won a round and that is what the judge gave her.
    Cejudo over MM - Here is a narrow dethroning of a champ.
    Nunes over Cyborg - Finish
    Khabib over Iaquinta(No incumbent champ)- All rounds to Khabib
    Jon Jones over Gus II(No incumbent champ) - Finish
    Cormier over Stipe - Finish

    2017

    Holloway over Aldo - Finish
    Whittaker over Romero(No incumbent champ) - Clear decision
    Cyborg over Evinger(No incumbent champ) - Finish
    Jones over DC II - Finish, overturned to NC
    DC over Rumble(No incumbent champ) - Finish
    Ferguson over Lee(Interim title) - Finish
    Namajunas over Joanna - Finish
    Dillashaw over Cody - Finish
    GSP over Bisping - Finish

    2016

    Cruz over Dillashaw - Cruz never was defeated for the title but was challenging here. 2nd close decision over a reigning champ nevertheless.
    Tate over Holm - Finish
    Jones over OSP(Interim title) - Finish
    Stipe over Werdum - Finish
    Bisping over Rockhold - Finish
    Alvarez over RDA - Finish
    Aldo over Edgar - Edgar took a round at most
    Nunes over Tate - Finish
    Woodley over Lawler - Finish
    Conor over Alvarez - Finish
    Holloway over Pettis(Interim title) - Finish
     
  2. JabToucher Banned Banned

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    Depends if the deadly uppercut is delivered.
     
  3. Leinster Rugby Black Belt

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    No, but having judges that aren't bona fide useless would be a start.

    The judges for UFC 247:

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  4. Al Stone Banned Banned

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    What you are saying REALLY drives the point home that Reyes did the least to convincingly take the belt but people view it a HUGE robbery. It just isnt.
     
  5. HUGHPHUG AL CAPS YO

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    I actually think this is a good idea

    I want those round ball things on a stick from old world time with spikes

    some dude on here knows about them

    either that or a 2 cobras in the cage

    or six donkeys

    and a sloth

    fuck yeah
     
  6. William Huggins Silver Belt

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    The real question is, how many uppercuts does it take to fill a room................
     
  7. eiyuu Silver Belt

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    Bad decisions will always happen.

    Don't let it go to the judges.
     
  8. Zebra Cheeks Thicka Then A Bowl of Oatmeal Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    CAN BROCK LESNAR FIGHT A LIVE LEOPARD?!?!
     
  9. Zebra Cheeks Thicka Then A Bowl of Oatmeal Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    An average room is approximately 420 square feet. The avg uppercut fills approximately 3.6 square feet of atmosphere with the presence of the just bleed god.

    As a result it takes approximately 116 metric uppercuts to fill the average room.
     
  10. Wizzlebiz Wizzlebiz is the Wizziest

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    Mace the word I think you were looking for is a mace.
     
  11. Zebra Cheeks Thicka Then A Bowl of Oatmeal Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    [​IMG]
     
  12. Harlekin Black Belt

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    What do we learn from this?

    Dana really really really wanted Mighty mouse gone
     
  13. IndyCovaHart Steel Belt

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    Y’all act like this is first close/questionable decision ever in the history of history.
     
  14. Harlekin Black Belt

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    This is not the Mace you have been lookin for
     
  15. Zebra Cheeks Thicka Then A Bowl of Oatmeal Staff Member Senior Moderator

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  16. Corrado Soprano Brown Belt

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    I’ve literally heard no one say this
     
  17. William Huggins Silver Belt

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    I think you mean cubic feet, JBG operates in 3 dimensions.
     
  18. AngryPorto The Guy Next to Cabbot

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    No but gassing in the 4th and 5th isn't a good look. Doesn't mean you didn't win the first 3, tho...
     
  19. Joonyer Purple Belt

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    Nope. Just gotta beat him up. That didn't happen.
     
  20. Wizzlebiz Wizzlebiz is the Wizziest

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    All I wanted and needed to say Il take my exit now.
     
  21. Vil7 Silver Belt

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    This is the kind of fuckin math we need in schools. Not that calculus bullshit.
     

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