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HW GOAT.
Definitely.
Overeem has 25 wins as a Heavyweight, fighting legit competition in Dream, Strikeforce, and the UFC.
An instant HOFer for sure, although there were fights that he probably should have won as those were crucial to his reputation as a fighter.
That Travis Browne and Bigfoof losses don't really sit right with me either.
Always thought of him as a roider, nothing more. Ubereem on the other hand was a sheer monster.
But hes been doing pretty good for himself for a while now. Do you think he's all time great heavyweight?
He's had great longevity but has been a gatekeeper more than anything else. He reminds me of Cerrone as both have tons of fights and wins and great resumes...but neither has fought more than once for the UFC title and both were finished in the 1st round when they tried. Maybe if he'd won the SF tournament it would be different. The only thing of note he did in SF was beat Werdum in a weird fight in which he (Overeem) was clearly roided to comic book levels. He quickly got busted for PEDs in the UFC and got KO'd three times before he reinvented himself as Econoreem. Since then he's done better than I expected, but always comes up short in the biggest, possible title contention fights (Ngannou, Blaydes, etc.). I give him an A+ for career longevity but zero support for GOAThood.
Dream and SF "legit" competition is a stretch. Other than Werdum (a fight where Reem resembled Hulk on extra roids), he didn't beat anyone noteworthy. His fight vs. Cro-Cop in Dream was an NC and Mark Hunt was in the middle of a terrible losing streak at the time (Sean McCorkle submitted him in 1 minute just like Reem did)
Browne, Bigfoot, and Rothwell losses are the ones he could've avoided. Doesn't sit well with me either.An instant HOFer for sure, although there were fights that he probably should have won as those were crucial to his reputation as a fighter.
That Travis Browne and Bigfoof losses don't really sit right with me either.
Always thought of him as a roider, nothing more. Ubereem on the other hand was a sheer monster.
But hes been doing pretty good for himself for a while now. Do you think he's all time great heavyweight?
Always thought of him as a roider, nothing more. Ubereem on the other hand was a sheer monster.
But hes been doing pretty good for himself for a while now. Do you think he's all time great heavyweight?