Do you consider a gentlemans agreement to be a work/fix?

[Pierced7681]

Marcus Davis and chris lytle had an agreement that the first guy to shoot in their fight was a pussy.

Matt Serra stated after the lytle rematch he only stood and banged it out cause he owed lytle a war after their boring first fight.

Vitor and joe charles essentially had a grappling match at UFC Japan. Charles was his training partner at the time.

Carlos Newton and saku had a ground war in pride without any GNP to see who was better.

Do you consider these fights a work?

 

[chitoortiz]

Unless the ending is choreographed, the fight is legit.

 

[raconnor]

a fixed fight has a predetermined winner.

 

[mmafan559]

No.

Those fights ain't no Dada vs. Kimbo.

 

[dc007]

No, not at all just two guys agreeing to their own rules.

 

[Le Choad]

No

 

[MMun]

No.

 

[Gorkle]

Yes.

It was also a work when Vitor and Hendo agreed to fight at LHW instead of MW and not cut any weight. Because an agreement means anu actual achievement is irrelevant.

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

I'm fine with it. As long as it isn't an agreement on who can circle around the cage/ring the fastest, as I don't mind.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

No, it might be a bad gameplan but it's not a work/fix.

 

[Silverstar17]

You might want to check what you understand under a fight being a work.

As long as both guys try to win it doesn't matter what they agreed on beforehand. Actually I find it quite cool if two guys agree to a certain agreement like no GnP or no TDs as long as they stick to that.

 

[GordaoPreguico]

Not in those cases you mentioned.

 

[Combat Wombatt]

No.

Those fights ain't no Dada vs. Kimbo.

If this is fixed who's gonna win it?

 

[waldywaldy]

If it's an agreement between two fighters that's cool with me as long as no outcomes are predetermined.

I do have a problem with it when promoters are involved.
The UFC told Chuck before his first fight in the promotion that if he shot for a TD he would never work for them again. That shit is fucked up.

 

[Jay philips]

A fight fix usually consist of a heavy underdog winning a fight while all the people in charge put a huge amount of money on them betting. Holly Holms manager made 6 figures off her, with that said how could that gentlemans bet be considered a fight fix. Another example is the fight promoter gets somebody to throw a fight to elevate another potential stars marketing power but both fighters know about it. Nothing you stated comes close to a fight being worked. The winner is predetermined when a fight is being worked so ummmmm yea sure

 

[Hallelujah]

They are definitely robbing the hardworking fans.

 

[cshireman4]

Not at all. By that same logic, every rule in MMA would create a "fix" If soccer kicks were allowed, one could argue that Shogun would have had more success in the UFC. Did Zuffa fix his fights by creating this limitation?

A gentleman's agreement is just that, an agreement. They take the rules and add more specific modifications to them and both guys agree to these limitations. If it was a fighter and a judge having an agreement, then yes, the fight would be a fix.

If someone loses because of the way they fought and they fought that way because of an agreement with their opponent, then they negotiated poorly and it is their own fault. A gentleman's agreement doesn't guarantee either fighter will be victorious.

 

[mjmj]

Not at all. By that same logic, every rule in MMA would create a "fix" .

Exactly. It's a fairly dumb question.

 

[Pierced7681]

Another one, everyone here was screaming that elitexc was fixing fights by offering seth money to stand with kimbo.

 

[Wheels-8]

If this is fixed who's gonna win it?

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