Do you believe Jon Jones is obligated to fight Tom Aspinall?

[Mohawk Banditó]

can you post jones resume
educate us all on why he has the best and hardest resume and how he did it by cherry picking
im pretty sure any fighter on the planet would love to have a resume like jon
but cant

3 generations of the best fighters lining up just to beat him but cant

2 generations. He fought grandpas much older than him when he was young, then other dads his age when he was a dad, but never anyone much younger than him.

 

[Mick Dojang]

The fact that this dumb situation continues shows that he's apparently not actually obligated to fight him, but he should be

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Try this on for size. Jon Jones not fighting holding a belt brings the UFC more attention than Aspinall could ever.

There you go giving the people you're biased for favors again. You love making merit arguments when merit is called for, but then make business arguments when they don't. The champ not defending his belt is bringing attention, but a lot of bad press as well. Aspinall is exciting enough that people could have been paying attention, had all his decent wins start becoming defenses, but that hasn't been allowed to happen because Jon is resting.

Blaming him for ANYTHING when the company could easily strip is just plain dumb.

I just explained why it isn't, but you just ignored it instead of addressing it because it was inconvenient for you. Stripping is not an "easy" decision when Jon makes it seem like there are alternate decisions they could make, which is what they're trying to do

He doesn’t have to do a fucking thing

He can either agree to fight or he can hard disagree and get stripped. Those are the things he has to do. Doing neither makes it seem like there's an open possibly for either and is what's keeping the UFC open to not stripping him.

You think a parent is the sole responsible party for their kid stomping their feet and having a fit, even though that kid is a full adult.

but keep you talking

Will do, thanks

 

[ShadowRun]

Jones will rag doll him

 

[haj02]

This is prize fighting, there are no obligations. The onus is all on the promotion to make the fights that the fans want to see.

 

[Fedorgasm]

He's been obligated to fight Tom since before he fought Stipe.

The UFC should've never allowed the champion to call out an old guy who was brutally knocked into retirement 3 years ago. What if they let all the champs do that? They'd all just be getting easy paydays.

 

[Mind Mine]

There you go giving the people you're biased for favors again. You love making merit arguments when merit is called for, but then make business arguments when they don't. The champ not defending his belt is bringing attention, but a lot of bad press as well. Aspinall is exciting enough that people could have been paying attention, had all his decent wins start becoming defenses, but that hasn't been allowed to happen because Jon is resting.


I just explained why it isn't, but you just ignored it instead of addressing it because it was inconvenient for you. Stripping is not an "easy" decision when Jon makes it seem like there are alternate decisions they could make, which is what they're trying to do


He can either agree to fight or he can hard disagree and get stripped. Those are the things he has to do. Doing neither makes it seem like there's an open possibly for either and is what's keeping the UFC open to not stripping him.

You think a parent is the sole responsible party for their kid stomping their feet and having a fit, even though that kid is a full adult.


Will do, thanks

You sound unhinged and dumb. Jon Jones is the biggest fighting STAR the UFC has. Tom Aspinall has never headlined a PPV you fucking goof. You typed all this stupid shit over things THAT ARE NOT OPINION. They are facts that simultaneously agitate your pussy. He has no obligation to do a fucking thing but what the UFC says or what he chooses. You can cry like a hoe but the cold hard fact is Jones isn’t obligated to your bitch tears. The UFC gets more attention with Jones not fighting as champion than Aspinall fighting. Deal with it

 

[VinceArch]

He's the champion. Of course he is, what a dumb question.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

You sound unhinged and dumb. Jon Jones is the biggest fighting STAR the UFC has.

So then they won't strip him, right?

Tom Aspinall has never headlined a PPV you fucking goof.

He hasn't been able to, because of the reasons I already said and you again ignored

You typed all this stupid shit over things THAT ARE NOT OPINION.

They're yours and your opinion sucks. No one said Tom is more popular than Jon, and yet here you are crying for paragraphs that "my hero is so totally super popular, you guys, so just leave him alone!"

No one disputed all this irrelevant shit you're drooling out between your sobs.

They are facts that simultaneously agitate your pussy.

Are you agitated, my pussy?

He has no obligation to do a fucking thing but what the UFC says or what he chooses.

He is not obligated to do what the UFC says or chooses. They can tell him he has to defend and he can just not do that.

You can cry like a hoe but the cold hard fact is Jones isn’t obligated to your bitch tears.

You're mixing up what obligation here means, again because it's inconvenient to you. The UFC can't make him fight, but they won't strip him if he's leaving the possibility of fighting open, which is his decision

The UFC gets more attention with Jones not fighting as champion than Aspinall fighting. Deal with it

So then why are you saying the UFC has to strip him?

You seem to be flipping back and forth between "The UFC shouldn't strip him because he's very popular (even though they don't actually make any money off that popularity if he's not fighting)" and "The UFC is at fault because they haven't stripped him." So let me ask, do you think, at this point, where we are now, we are past the point of no return and the UFC should already be stripping Jon?

 

[MDoza]

If he’s going to fight, it should be against Aspinall.

He isn’t obligated to fight though.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

He's the champion. Of course he is, what a dumb question.

What's more dumb the question, or the people who said no?

 

[jeff7b9]

 

[Alpha_T83]

The fact that this dumb situation continues shows that he's apparently not actually obligated to fight him, but he should be

I have a sneaking suspicion the UFC are working on just that.

I think we will see Aspinall vs Gane @ UFC 317, and they aren't announcing it yet because they are trying to get Jon Jones to sign a contract to agree to fight Aspinall, should he win the fight. If Jon Jones refuses, he will be stripped of the belt and Aspinall vs Gane will be for the vacant title.

I also think Jones will sign the contract, agreeing to fight Aspinall (should he beat Gane) at MSG in November. It costs him nothing and he can always pull out of the fight if he changes his mind.

 

[CJrider]

Nah he should just coast, he already beat the guy who was retired for 3.5 years and coming off a loss. What more do the fans want!

 

[Luffy]

With that in mind it’s clear the UFC catered to Jon to set up the Stipe fight. This gives the impression that they are scratching his back, which in turn justifies them asking something of Jon that isn’t favorable in hopes he considers the favor they did for him, in this case fighting Tom Aspinall.

How is that clear? Sounds like a wild speculation with nothing even slightly implying it...

 

[Luffy]

Try this on for size. Jon Jones not fighting holding a belt brings the UFC more attention than Aspinall could ever. Blaming him for ANYTHING when the company could easily strip is just plain dumb. He doesn’t have to do a fucking thing but keep you talking

Damn, someone can piece things together!! That was basically what I said in a past thread. Ppl don't see the most logical scenario, which is funny. To me, it's either a reading comprehension problem... Or they let their blatant bias cloud their sense of judgement. One of the best answers here!

 

[Ibm]

Beating Stipe and DC is no joke. He should just retire now if hes smart.

 

[Luffy]

Luffy fills his novels with bullshit lines like "Generally what I've seen from videos of UFC insiders that touch upon these subjects more..."

LMAO he must think that kind of absolute throwaway garbage line gives his completely farsical posts some air of legitimacy. In reality it exposes the fact that he types posts as long as the Bible that are filled with total crap.

But I have seen them. Chael Sonnen's video. Whatever perception you have of Chael doesn't change the fact that he has both considerable power within the UFC and doesn't say things about fighters that are not accurate, like, he won't ever slander them...

In regards to the power he holds within UFC, it's big enough that he can demand that an athlete speak up in 24 hours, otherwise he'll kick them out of the organization — point in case, Jiri Prochakza... And Jiri's manager in fact called him right after, spoke to him and told him that they understand and that they will from then on bla bla bla — ...

Not only that, but whatever info he gives, he is not trolling. He is simply telling whatever the UFC is considering right then, as he has access to matchmakers being part of the team itself... And he has open, recognized and allowed access to USADA's — now not USADA anymore, but a new organ. He also has direct access to whoever is in the pool, has access to the UFC drugging tests... as he is a part of the team responsible for PED usage control, he is a part of the matchmakers and promotions. People view him as a troll, which he says he is just so they won't look into his videos, or if they do, they won't take them serious. But he is serious and can disguise that well enough by telling "unrelated, trippy stories"... That get the exact message across whoever is constantly following the business...

Pretty much, no, you're wrong. The info is indeed from insiders and one which has power enough that even Dana admits that, in some aspects, Chael has more authority than he himself and that he can't do anything. You can look at him basically as one of THE authorities that can get his point across to a very few ppl but... He wants to speak his mind into his videos knowing that most ppl will say he has gone insane, as he doesn't want many ppl to know the weigh his words and authority have. And I'm not lying at all, I am 100% serious and truthful when telling you this. You might not believe it, ok, it's your right. But if some people see that as a 100% accurate post, they could definitely dig deep to get that info... And acknowledge that his videos are always serious and stem from the info and insight of someone with plenty of power there. And he doesn't like Jon Jones at all lol. He wants JJ to lose. It doesn't matter to me of course, I just follow him because I want to be as accurate as possible...

 

[Human Bass]

He just defended a few months ago. That restarts the clock on "holding the belt too long."

You can't bitch that he's been inactive when he just fought. More recently than Aspinall has, at that.

Against someone who had no chance and didnt deserve.

 

[Luffy]

Jones posted this today , hes got Tom and his fangirls where he wants them with the trolling .

It remembers something about Bryce Mitchell making a point that his farm is constantly at risk due to wild dogs wanting to eat his chickens, sheep's or wtv that was...

And the Bryce Mitchell vs Jean Silva fight was more than a fight it seems. I remember that Chael got off the press conference and made a video speaking about Bryce Mitchell. He said something like "but where did Jean Silva come from? Why is this Jean Silva guy vs Mitchell with all this hype ... That's what people are speaking. Generally speaking, the fights are clear to the audience, we never needed fighters that those who will buy the PPV won't be so stunned, the real amazement is now reserved to only those who are in Miami... But that's why some fighters are a pain in the ass. It'd be like me and Anderson Silva fighting but we decided that iy could only be seen by special people, not by the fans... It's ridiculous, but yeah if some guys want to go to war, ok" ... Something like this.

And Tom had spoken about Bryce and Jean Silva once as "and that's the really interesting fight..." ... And after the UFC 314, Tom seemed to be kinda nervous, sweating, anxious actually.... And in his UFC 314 review he spoke about the Bryce Mitchell and Jean Silva fight only... Saying "and that's the fight that stand out... Jean Silva with a left hook, very strong shot... Bryce Mitchell tried the takedown but Jean Silva immediately got in the choke and Bryce believed he had the best ground game. Jean Silva chokes Bryce unconscious. Yeah... unfortunately. But very good fight from Jean Silva, amazing composure doing the pressure, congratulations, huge talent..."

And after the fight I think DC was commenting and talking about the atmosphere during that fight... How the ppl there were just nervous, anxious... That during their walk out, it was some breathtaking thing, and one of the most meaningful events in the history"... Weird way to talk about a fight like that...

Curiously, in one TikTok post, which seemed real, Jean Silva had been introduced with "the one, the only!!" motto... Wtf idk. It was right around the time that JJ also wrote a Twitter saying "so the guy known for 'calling out Jon Jones' was just never that good..." .... But he quickly deleted that, which some news reported, as the tweet sparked some debates with it being attached to UFC 314...

It's just idk, strange shit.....