Do you believe Jon Jones is obligated to fight Tom Aspinall?

Do you believe Jon Jones is obligated to fight Tom Aspinall?


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If you follow the situation enough you will be aware that Jones has been avoiding this fight at all costs and ALSO did this with Francis. Stipe and Jones should have never fought. Never in history has there been a more clear challenger(Champion) than Tom. IF Jones continues to fight in the HW division he absolutely must fight Tom. 19 of you as of now are doing some serious mental gymnastics. Jones is by far the biggest duck off all elite fighters. As of now its part of his story like it or not.
 
If he wants to keep the belt, then yes.
 
No hes not... UFC is a company and not a real sport...
The dude tested positive 3 times for anabolic steroids, such as Turinabol, a very powerful underground steroid
Try that in a real sport - you get banned for life
 
It's on both of them. You're acting like because the ultimate responsibility on what happens with the belt, that means it's their  sole responsibility, and everyone else is absolved of any accountability. The UFC  could strip at any time and move on, but that is a final option and as long as they think there's any possibility they can make the fight, then they will try to. So if we're arguing that we're at the point of no return and the fight will never happen, then yes, the UFC is at fault every second they don't strip him. But until that point, Tom and the UFC are both trying. And maybe the UFC isn't trying "hard enough," but in that case, the blame is shared between them and Jon. Either that, or are they are making a concerted effort and the blame is on Jon
Try this on for size. Jon Jones not fighting holding a belt brings the UFC more attention than Aspinall could ever. Blaming him for ANYTHING when the company could easily strip is just plain dumb. He doesn’t have to do a fucking thing but keep you talking
 
I voted yes, but with the caveat that if he fights again, it has to be against Tom or he 100% has to vacate.

If he vacates, he can fight Jim Fucking Miller for all I care.
 
What does Jones for you that you try to defend him so much? I am just curious.
Because he is just such a legend in MMA... He’s been unbeaten since the start, became the youngest champion ever, and went through multiple generations of fighters, always coming out on top. I used to root against him—wanted Anderson Silva to beat him when that super fight was teased—but even then, I kinda feared that the fight would happen since Jon Jones seemed just a pretty talented kid that had an unstoppable aura. And Jon Jones never pushed for that fight, despite the UFC wanting to make it. He respected Anderson Silva, so to him it was like, "if Anderson Silva wants to, but only if he wants, he is a legend too".

Over time, I started to appreciate his mentality. He dealt with insane pressure, criticism, and real-life controversies, yet still performed at the highest level. He didn’t just want to win but to dominate. Even when he beat the third generation, all younger fighters who were either on a streak or undefeated, like Smith, Santos, and Reyes, you could tell he wasn’t satisfied unless it was decisive. He defeated Reyes fair and square, but not being happy still, to me says a lot about how much he demands of himself.

He stayed out for 3 years, but he trained, studied every card, adapted his game to the new generation. Then he beat another younger, talented up and comer, Gane, in 2 minutes, which seemed to blow any expectations considering he was needing to dig deep and push himself with those type of up and comers 3 years ago... proving he’d evolved again in three years out of the octagon, which seemed just like unreal, like... No one expects a second wind of prime, but JJ seems to challenge logic. He’s not just fighting for paychecks or fan approval. He fights when he knows he’s ready to win, when he’s studied every angle. That’s what makes him different and more compelling to me, he treats MMA like chess, not just a brawl. And he doesn't hide that he fears, that he has anxiety issues before every fight... But the way he turns that fear into an elite performance every time, just tells me he's a different kind of animal in his mentality...

He could’ve retired after Reyes and he would still have been the GOAT. But he keeps going, studying, competing, pushing himself... partially I think because he needs that goal, that challenge, otherwise he feels kinda miserable it seems, which can be definitely bad... but overall, I just admire how obsessive and strategic he is. I want to see him retire unbeaten, because no one has done what he’s done in this sport.
 
Jones is a cherry picking bum. Anybody who supports this fraud and criminal is a can.

There is no HW division. Thanks Jon.
 
You can't let one guy stall the career of another by telling the interim champ "just wait a bit longer" forever while his prime erodes.
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What does Jones for you that you try to defend him so much? I am just curious.

We all know Tom wants to fight Jones and to get the 'real' belt. He is trying this for a long time while Jones is claiming the fight does nothing for him, he is not interested and it is not smart for him bussiness wise to fight a younger and more heavy opponent. But now you find something about Tom's health and you really believe this is the reason they don't have a fight scheduled yet? And moreso you accuse Tom for using steroids while Jones is the one being caught more than once?

There must be something that makes you completely blind. I have no favorite fighters and just want to see the best fight the best so I am not familiar with the feelings that you must feel for Jones.
Moreover, I never accused him of steroids. I cited the part he singled out specifically, as in the context of him answering the hold up of the fight... And quoted him exactly. Which I said, is eye-opening concerning possible PEDs usage. Because, again, unless he is a genetic freak, in a super human almost level, it's just... Very hard to justify him consuming ~3,000 calories a day, while he, as he said, spends ~ 6k/7k calories in a day he trains. But when doing nothing and just laying down for 24h, he wastes ~ 3,000 calories. So it's very eye opening how he'd even function let alone maintain that muscle-only mass — almost 60kg of muscles only (no bones, blood, water) with a ~12% of body fat all while eating about half of what he would burn in a training day. Since Tom said "yeah, it's good that I got those results because... I was eating the right things, but I was doing things in a wrong way, so I need to change it, otherwise my healthy wouldn't hold up..." it just seems to me that it's a theory, not bullet proof ofc... But eye-opening. Specially since he had been very vocal about PEDs usage, saying whoever is called even once on it, to him is excluded from the conversation, like Silva or JJ.

And again, it is not a baseless assumption. If the listener has somewhat of a critical sense when watching the video, the information about the diet, as well as the overall tune of the video... Could very well theorize that as it is backed up well. Even more so, because under current policy for when an athlete is caught on PEDs, not to expose their image and taint it, they generally (the organization itself) advises them of such, and so the athlete has the option to "come up with an injury" while filling the ~ 1 year suspension. Not to say that every injury shall be taken like this, but... Some may really be. Generally, as I've seen from videos of UFC insiders analysts that touch upon those subjects more, in cases the organization take the champions belts away (if they are champions), making it a "the fighter wilfully vacated the belt not to hold the division while recovering for 1 year", it's more likely (not 100% tho) that the injury was a PED flag. Or, they can keep the belt, but would need to defend it three times vs whoever the organization told them when the phone rung, otherwise they'd need to vacate and the injury would be used for the "why did he vacate?" reason...

Idk whether it accounts for something, but Chael had said that there was a requirement which would be fulfilled, that Tom needed to defend his interim belt at least once more, likely vs Gane, before fighting JJ. That's why I've said that the leaked info he had given is that Aspinall vs Gane would happen in July, and then, the fight vs JJ would happen in November... Which is why I said to expect it in November.
 
Luffy fills his novels with bullshit lines like "Generally what I've seen from videos of UFC insiders that touch upon these subjects more..."

LMAO he must think that kind of absolute throwaway garbage line gives his completely farsical posts some air of legitimacy. In reality it exposes the fact that he types posts as long as the Bible that are filled with total crap.
 
Aspinall does t have to wait he can just pretend Jones does exist and go on with his title reign.

It'll make Jon look worse and tarnish his rep, while earning money
As far as I can understand from Aspinall's dad's words, he wants to fight anyone but the UFC wants him to fight Jhon yet they aren't able to make the fight happen and thus Tom is stuck in limbo
 
Jones posted this today , hes got Tom and his fangirls where he wants them with the trolling .

 
As long as he is the champ he is obligated to defend his belt against who ever the UFC deems the challenger. If he were to decide to vacate then I wouldn't feel like he's obligated to fight Tom at all.
 
Jones is a cherry picking bum. Anybody who supports this fraud and criminal is a can.

There is no HW division. Thanks Jon.
can you post jones resume
educate us all on why he has the best and hardest resume and how he did it by cherry picking
im pretty sure any fighter on the planet would love to have a resume like jon
but cant

3 generations of the best fighters lining up just to beat him but cant
 
he is a champ he needs to fight to keep that belt so aspinall is next in line off course he has to fight
 
can you post jones resume
educate us all on why he has the best and hardest resume and how he did it by cherry picking
im pretty sure any fighter on the planet would love to have a resume like jon
but cant

3 generations of the best fighters lining up just to beat him but cant
You mean a career with an asterisk? Nah.
 
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