Do you agree with the champs calling the shots?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by KOfinger, Aug 5, 2016.

  1. KOfinger

    KOfinger Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2016
    Messages:
    1,761
    Likes Received:
    2,672
    What do you think?

    First thing first, this is not boxing. This is a private company, so they should be the one deciding who lives and who dies aka who fights for the title and who doesn't.

    UFC should stop giving so much power to fighters.
     
  2. Ham Socks

    Ham Socks Professional Fighter

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Messages:
    6,383
    Likes Received:
    6,035
    It's like I always say....




    Champions choice. H8rs can dry their eyes.
     
  3. Bill Laimbeer

    Bill Laimbeer Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2014
    Messages:
    4,128
    Likes Received:
    4,139
    Can you please make one decent thread?
     
  4. eyenomas

    eyenomas Double Yellow Card Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2016
    Messages:
    887
    Likes Received:
    1,066
    Why do fighters even have records?
     
  5. Hi-Tech

    Hi-Tech Slavic Fighter Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2016
    Messages:
    4,941
    Likes Received:
    7,540
    Location:
    Eastern European takeover of boxing
    I think the majority of these UFC champions we have now don't deserve to have any leverage. If they had like 5 or more legit defenses then yeah they deserve some tune up fights or a money fight, but otherwise not really.
     
  6. Estrogenblocker1078

    Estrogenblocker1078 Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2016
    Messages:
    1,925
    Likes Received:
    4,076
    Location:
    Austin Texas
    Then why bust your ass to get a title shot? Fuck that bullshit reward real contenders.
     
    aichokyu and muaythaibeast like this.
  7. podsox

    podsox Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2012
    Messages:
    12,333
    Likes Received:
    14,774
    hell no. they should have no say. number 1 contender gets the shot. if u just fought him it goes to number 2 etc.
     
    aichokyu likes this.
  8. Warh3z

    Warh3z Wet ass

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2015
    Messages:
    1,272
    Likes Received:
    2,391
    Not in all cases, but in some yes.


    I like Bisping - Hendo because they've both given their lives to the company, and a titleshot is a nice retirement gift for Hendo, and a great shot at redemption for Bisping.
     
    MCS, AMAZINGUFC and Hankooks like this.
  9. cpotl

    cpotl Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2007
    Messages:
    597
    Likes Received:
    407
    Location:
    Crown Point
    A champ who has taken on all comers for over two years, yes. First title defense, definitely not.
     
  10. ButtonMasher

    ButtonMasher Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    679
    Likes Received:
    566
    No, but it's better than not-champs calling the shots (cough, Conor getting Aldo without having to face Edgar).
     
  11. Death By Samson

    Death By Samson Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2016
    Messages:
    11,803
    Likes Received:
    47,405
    Location:
    Illinois
    The champions should not be deciding who the top contender is.
     
    lalaland, JokersKnife and SenorFranko like this.
  12. aragona

    aragona Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    289
    Location:
    New York
    UFC is a business which happens to be a sport...champions calling out for big fights instead facing the #1 ranked fighter in their division makes more business sense for UFC at the end of the day.
     
  13. navywrestler

    navywrestler Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2015
    Messages:
    375
    Likes Received:
    141
    Location:
    your mom
    no i think rankings and results should call the shots.
     
  14. TheGOD

    TheGOD Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2010
    Messages:
    2,239
    Likes Received:
    194
    Of course they can call the shots because they have leverage. they'd be a fool not to exercise that leverage. Look at it like this:

    These guys are prizefighters. THEY FIGHT FOR MONEY. If there exists a fight that is makeable and that can sell, why wouldn't the UFC book it? Does it make sense for the UFC to say, "Hey Tyron, GSP wants to fight you and we know that fight will do about a million buys. That means you'd make about 3 million dollars. But fuck you. You're gonna fight Wonderboy, do about 300k buys and make about 600k."

    I'm sure an extra couple mill is more important to Woodley than the prestige of beating another fighter the casual fans don't know. Hence, if the UFC tries to block it, T-Wood will stall as long as possible, faking injuries and whatnot until he gets the fight he wants.
     
  15. TheGOD

    TheGOD Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2010
    Messages:
    2,239
    Likes Received:
    194
    The rankings are just as much of a sham. If the UFc wants Tyron to fight GSP, all they'd have to do is rank GSP as the #1 contender.
     
  16. MMAFan232

    MMAFan232 Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2006
    Messages:
    5,798
    Likes Received:
    365
    No, I think it should be more calculated and the actual number one contender should get it
     
  17. aragona

    aragona Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    289
    Location:
    New York
    UFC is now owned by WME which is an entertainment management company...it's all about the money, it's not MLB, NFL or NBA. They'll make the fights which make the most money. Like it or not the fighters will now need to act as promoters for themselves in order to get the fights they want. Woodley recognizes this, that's why he's calling out money fights and not top contenders. Believe me UFC will make the money fight before the fight that makes sporting sense. Look at Hendo & Bisping...it's all about the money in England.
     
  18. mangokush

    mangokush Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2012
    Messages:
    4,651
    Likes Received:
    4,683
    Well Conor has just showed all the other fighters in the UFC such as Woodley and others the Promised Land and now they are all going there.

    Wouldn't be a problem if fighter pay blah.
     
  19. HHJ

    HHJ Jeg reiser til mørkets dyp der alt er dødt.

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2004
    Messages:
    66,771
    Likes Received:
    53,317
    For the fighters its smart and I have no problem with that whatsoever. If two men want to fight and the fans want to see it,i dont see why it cant be done. If say woodley beats diaz or gsp,and bisping would beat hendo i would hope theyd go back on track after that though.
     
  20. EJRMAN513

    EJRMAN513 Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2011
    Messages:
    5,738
    Likes Received:
    1,333
    Location:
    Cincinnati Ohio
    I don't blame them for attempting to make more money and/or avenging previous losses and if the UFC sees it their way then whether I agree, disagree, like or dislike a certain matchup then fair game to them.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.