do you agree with me? if yes why. if no why

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  1. rizky

    rizky White Belt

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    I think only doing shadow boxing can make us a better fighter. I just train myself at home everyday. Do shadow boxing with imaginary opponent. Try to counter like 5 min x 6. Sometimes a also practice defend with imaginary opponent for 10 minutes each move. When i get to sparring i feel a lot more better. I spar maybe once a month. Do you think we can grow a lot by just doing lots of shadow boxing and little sparring? But what i mean in shadow boxing is really imagine your opponent not just throwing punch or kick
     
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    fluffball Brown Belt

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    Shadow boxing is awesome, but it has to be based in reality. If you were doing zero sparring, you wouldn't have anything to imagine. It would wind up looking like a TMA kata where you just obliterate 10 guys at the same time, breaking necks and backs and never getting hit.

    You worded your question oddly. No I don't think you can make much improvement doing ONLY shadow boxing. If you supplement it with sparring and heavy bag work, it's one of if not the best tools we have.
     
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  3. rizky

    rizky White Belt

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    yes i know what you mean but how much sparring do you think is enough? In the past i used to do it often like three times a week so i've got a good imagination
     
  4. fluffball

    fluffball Brown Belt

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    I don't think there is a set number. I'd guess the average is once a week, but if you're happy with once a month, great.
     
  5. ARIZE

    ARIZE Blue Belt

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    Absolutely not
     
  6. jonander50

    jonander50 Yellow Belt

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    Any fight training will make you a better fighter , the thing is you get diminished improvement rate as you are reaching your maximum potential in that aspect.

    Is best to have variety in your preparation to keep improvement ratio high.
     
  7. ARIZE

    ARIZE Blue Belt

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    -Who will correct your mistakes?
    -Who will show you the proper technique?
    -Who will you imagine shadowboxing against?
    -How do you know your style works against different styles?
    -How will you get used to been hit?
    -How will you get used to strike with power?
    -How will you get used to extend your strikes?
    -How will you learn balance when hitting, or missing while expect to hit?
    -How will you learn to breath while been hit?
    -How will you developed muscles?
    -How will you developed your conditioning?
    -Who will correct your stance/form when dead tired?
    -Who will push you to be dead tired?
    ... and all the other things you do/learn at the gym, with a trainer, sparring partners and proper equipment.
     
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  8. AndyMaBobs

    AndyMaBobs Brown Belt

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    You can start out just shadowboxing at home if you don't have the money to go to the gym, but if you just shadowbox for a year without doing any other sorts of drills, while you may think you look like this:



    You'll actually look like this:

     
  9. j123

    j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

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    It will depend on the stage you are as a fighter. If you're new, not used to getting hit, forget it. You need to learn how to "fight" at that stage.

    I don't believe shadow boxing as 80% of your regimen will make you a better fighter. Sparring may be substituted with flow sparring + partner drills, and those drills have to be borderline sparring. eg. your partner goes on offense, you on defense countering, etc.

    Striking alone, there are things you can't experience with just shadow boxing
    -sweeps, getting swept/dumped
    -getting hit
    -full feel and resisting from clinching

    Its 1 tool in the toolbox, you can't use a screwdriver as a hammer, etc

    I myself aim to spar once a week, but sometimes things come up and I end up sparring twice a month, I still progress, but like I said earlier, my drilling is very close to sparring, so I'm not missing out much. Really, sparring is the testing ground where you test out techniques, gameplans, and drills that you've been practicing all week (or longer).
     
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    Kanka Brown Belt

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    I like shadow boxing for refining technique and muscle memory. Its bery important to shadow box but it cant replace padwork or sparring. If you spar light like thais you can even spar every day.
     
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    if you want to replace real sparring with shadowboxing, you need to get shadowpunched and sometimes you might end up shadowKOd.
     
  12. j123

    j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

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    Underrated comment
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  13. fluffball

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    Johnny Cage..... Scorpion..... Sub-Zero..... Sonya. MORTAL KOMBAT!
     
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    j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

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    Noob Saibot is the GOAT for shadow techniques
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  15. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Can you get better only doing picture perfect shadow boxing? Of course...compared to doing nothing at all.

    Will it make you good enough to compete or even defend yourself adequately? I wouldn't bet on it.
     
  16. StopDucking

    StopDucking Ronda Rousey hater

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    1) What fucking language did this guy speak at the beginning of the video?
    2) Is he 15 or 35?
    3) What is he trying to do?
     
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    wilddeuces Brown Belt

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    Shadowboxing is underrated. You can always do more of it. There's little risk of injury, unless you hyperextend your elbows on every punch. There's so much you can do.

    Still though, shadows don't hit back. The best way to prepare for a fight is to fight. If you don't soar enough, you won't be ready. You gotta be sharp. You gotta be used to different rhythms from different fighters.

    You are lying to yourself if you think that sparring a couple more times a month wouldn't help you. Also, the conditions placed on your sparring can help build you in different ways too; you don't just have to bang away at each other like gyms bros.
     
  18. AndyMaBobs

    AndyMaBobs Brown Belt

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    Y'know your basement? Well right underneath that.
    I can literally only answer the first one. Yob, he's speaking Yob.
     
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    Samuel Reynoso Orange Belt

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    Sparring once a month doesn't sound that crazy. You could spend a month drilling the same 3 things. It might even be better because you wont be distracted by sparring, so you'll drill with more discipline, and your sparring partners wont be ready for your new stuff.
     

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