Do y’all Really believe Aspinall beats Jon?

Yes! No one is invincible. Jon Jones legs below the knee are very skinny. Someone with the right game plan could beat him.
 
Made Pavlovich's head wobble like a door stopper. Tom mostly hasn't put guys out as bad as Ngannou was doing, he more so makes them crumble when he touches them, but he doesn't swing as hard as Ngannou.
Thanks god for that. A big swing gives a much big opener for a takedown. Tom has enough power to make Jones quit if he manages to land half as much as Reyes
 
Do you really think Aspinall just gonna go and smoke Jon in round 1?

Sure he could give him trouble early, but what happens when the fight gets into round 2, 3 and championship rounds?

Aspinall will fade and Jon Jones granite chin and high fight IQ (best in the sport) will prevail and lead him to a triumphant victory

Jon is not ducking, this whole ordeal is about Dana using this fight in negotiating a new broadcasting deal.

A 15-3 guy with a submission loss to a guy in a regional circuit is NOT beating the greatest MMA fighter of all time.
The "greatest or all time" is not young or a hw

Reyes and Santos were less credentialed
 
Absolutely I think so. As do the bookmakers it seems. I'm not a Jones hater, but he's just not that good in 2025 imo.
 
In the last 6 years, Jones is 1-0 against top 5 opponents in MMA, and that win was against Gane, who has a 43% TDD rate in the UFC. Aspinall has a 100% TDD rate in the UFC.
 
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good point. Now how many guys whose age was over 40 or rounds up to 40 did jon fight when he was in his 20s and early 30s and nobody said shit? From the top of my head Stipe was 9001 years old. THe janitor was a dinosaur. DC was pushing 40. Santos was around 40. Who else was over 37?

Then when the shoe is on the other foot jon runs for the hills. Also why would you want another half a year n be even that much older if age is such a concern?

Just did a breakdown of the age differential between Jon and his opponents in the UFC. Now, you should expect the early fights to be fighting older fighters, but for a guy with Jon's longevity, you'd kind of expect that to start becoming younger fighters at the end, but it's really not that much, if at all.

Gusmao is 10 years older
Bonnar is 8 years older
O'Brien is 3 years older
Hamill is 11 years older
Vera is 10 years older
Matyushenko is 17 years older
Bader is 4 years older
Shogun is 6 years older
Rampage is 9 years older
Machida is 9 years older
Rashad is 8 years older
Belfort is 10 years older
Sonnen is 10 years older
Gustafsson (x2) is 1 year older
Teixeira is 8 years older
Cormier (x2) is 9 years older
OSP is 4 years older
Smith is 1 year younger
Santos is 4 years older
Reyes is 2 years younger
Gane is 3 years younger

Miocic is 5 years older

24 UFC fights, only 3 were against younger fighters, and none of them by much at all. He has been, on average, more than 6 years younger than his opponents. And now he's talking about 6 years younger Aspinall as if he's too young

My mind drifts to the times when a fighter who is on a winning streak says they don't feel like they have to fight backwards, and they're met with such incredible criticism on this site from idiots who go "Every fight has someone fighting backwards, so if no one wants to fight backwards, then no fights get done!" and wonder where they are now for Jon "The Graverobber" Jones.
 
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It definitely could happen. hes arguably lost twice but there has been very few times jones has entered the cage with a legitimate chance of losing. This could be one of them.
 
Idk. I wouldn't be surprised if either one won, tbh. It's a type of fight I see as 50/50 in all honesty.
 
Jon looked the most dangerous he ever looked into that fight, rocked Stipe badly with boxing which is something we never seen Jon do before.

He ragdolled and walked down one of the heavyweight GOATs.

Jon has only one bad performance and that was against OSP

What about his performances against Reyes and no knees Santos? Both were very poor performances. Especially the Reyes fight, people were rightfully shocked when Jones got his hand raised. Now even if you agree with the decisions you cannot call those good performances by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Do you really think Aspinall just gonna go and smoke Jon in round 1?

Sure he could give him trouble early, but what happens when the fight gets into round 2, 3 and championship rounds?

Aspinall will fade and Jon Jones granite chin and high fight IQ (best in the sport) will prevail and lead him to a triumphant victory

Jon is not ducking, this whole ordeal is about Dana using this fight in negotiating a new broadcasting deal.

A 15-3 guy with a submission loss to a guy in a regional circuit is NOT beating the greatest MMA fighter of all time.
Let's see it then. Starting to look like Jones is pretty fucking scared. Maybe you're right and the delay is due to political wrangling at the top. Or maybe Jones is just being a fucking punk and wants too much money to risk getting his ass beat. Who knows? What we do know is that the fight is not getting booked. It's not a good look.
 
But honestly no, I think Jones will win in an easier way that ppl will get :0. Gane was supposedly a huge step up from the Jon that struggled but still defeated the 3 fighters from the new generation of fighters who were the hottest by then. With Gane, a natural heavyweight, who had wins by submissions, whom ppl would say that taking him to the ground would be really rough if he hadn't the strength to do that vs Reyes and Santos, whom were taken down by Jiri and Ankalaev easily.

He went there, looking a little off the shape ppl expected, and made Gane look like child's play. There has been a ? on whether JJ could do it for so long and at the end, he'd make it look easy. Tom Aspinall is ahead of everyone on HW since HW specially nowadays lack depth and talent. Ppl talk Miocic, but Tom Aspinall needed a takedown to defeat 43 yo Arlovski, who had been, way before, quickly KO'd by Ngannou and Cyril Gane. Derrick Lewis, sure, but Derrick Lewis had also been KO'd brutally twice by Ngannou, first fight when Ngannou was newer to the UFC, in second or third round and third time, in 40 seconds.

I saw Gordon Ryan speaking recently and saying he knew JJ wouldn't retire and that he'd back him up if he retired, but that it's fun he won't because, he said, he knows Jon Jones will win dominantly either vs Tom or Alex. He said his thing in jiu jitsu but that he understands a lot about MMA strategy and one's abilities and that he and JJ know that JJ with the current fighters, will simply win. I think that IF Jon Jones actually make this 6 months camping to the end, and show there the fight, he's going to win. Jiri Prochazka isn't one to say with confidence a fighter will win, he's generally "let the better win" but when asked about this fight, he was was direct as possible saying "Jon Jones will win. Tom Aspinall have the advantage of the really fast attacks. But if the Jones chooses to take the fight, he will have a good preparation and a good game plan and based on the patterns of Tom's attacks, he will avoid any of his attacks and will win. Man, I like Tom Aspinall, but I don't see it going any well vs the Jones"

DDP also said more or less it with "Tom Aspinall is incredible specially for a HW, but Jon Jones is years ahead of everybody, specially at heavyweight. Even more so when he is doubted more than ever, it's when he makes it look easy. He is the greatest of all time, for sure. As long as fighting in the UFC exist, he is the best ever."

Topuria when asked if he thinks Jon Jones will fight Tom — "Yeah, for sure". Then he was said "but he asked a lot of money, time for preparation" and Topuria said "He is smart, he didn't need this fight. But if people want this badly, he will demand the money and the time for him to deliver his performance. He is the best now and the goat. He is one that I need to take my UFC hat off and just say you are the one!" ...
 
Jones is not a natural heavyweight and has shown very little in heavyweight bouts. Gane fight was very odd some think even rigged. Stipe is over the hill and could be fighting in an old folks home based on his performance. Jones will go down to Aspinall if he ever fights him.
 
Jones is not a natural heavyweight and has shown very little in heavyweight bouts. Gane fight was very odd some think even rigged. Stipe is over the hill and could be fighting in an old folks home based on his performance. Jones will go down to Aspinall if he ever fights him.
There’s always excuses when opponents crumble against Jones, whether it’s age or “rigging” just all speculations and echo chamber
 
imagine the broadcast rights guys watching this farce, they should put a jon must fight tom clause in the contract lol so goof can give the bs a rest
 
He has a very decent chance to. There's no "hey do you think this happens 100% of the time" in fighting, obviously both guys have a chance to win the fight in a few different ways. But of everyone Jones has fought it would be his most dangerous opponent, a bigger guy at HW who tends to put guys out early. He's avoided these types of fights his whole career (Rumble, Ngannou) and opted for safer fights, for good reason, you don't stay undefeated by taking on guys who are known for ending it in the first minute of a fight.
 
I think Jones is a more dynamic striker (kicks, elbows, kitchen sink), better in clinch, better cardio even at his age, better wrestling. I think the fight would break the hype train if it comes to reality. We've seen Gane and Pavlovich hype trains evaporate overnight. Jones has fought huge guys with power and a good 1-2, more than Aspinall has fought anyone like Jones. Also who knows how Aspinall's knees hold up dealing with guys who aren't lumbering like Blaydes and Pavlovich.

Jones could win easily and people will just post how shitty the HW division is today rather than give Jones credit for beating Aspinall. This isn't like Jones/DC where either winner gets rightfully put above the loser forever and given respect for the win. Aspinall can easily be forgotten in HW history if he took a turn for the worst like Pavlovich did.
 
good point. Now how many guys whose age was over 40 or rounds up to 40 did jon fight when he was in his 20s and early 30s and nobody said shit? From the top of my head Stipe was 9001 years old. THe janitor was a dinosaur. DC was pushing 40. Santos was around 40. Who else was over 37?

Then when the shoe is on the other foot jon runs for the hills. Also why would you want another half a year n be even that much older if age is such a concern?
You named every fighter over 35 Jones fought... Santos Stipe DC. ... and I didn't say anything about fair or not fair or root for Jon... stop freaking out over nothing
 
I know everyone hates Jon and it clouds their judgment, but I do agree with you that Jon has a good chance to win if he doesn't get put on his back. When Tom strikes, he leaves himself open for counters a lot with his head high up and open. Jones could capitalize on this and KO him. But I also agree Jon is clearly nervous about this matchup which is why we've had to put up with all this shit in the 1st place.
 
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