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do sherdoggers really think Jones is a Threat for Werdum?

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  1. Charlitos1988

    Charlitos1988 Purple Belt

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    Most commentaries are that Werdum is afraid of Jones and Bones is the best fighter.

    I say the contrary because I feel Werdum is a terrible match up for Jones:

    - Werdum won't be afraid of takedowns or "elbows of doom" because he has a magnificent guard and can nullify any kind of ground and pound.

    - Werdum has almost same height and reach compared to Jones. So the "reach" hand and eye pokes won't be a problem for Werdum.

    - Werdum likes the Thai clinch for knees and is not afraid (again) about the takedown.

    - Finally for the ones who say "JDS uppercut", Jones doesn't have KO power so the flash KO won't be a problem Plus Werdum already pass through a Real KO beast like Hunt.
     
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    Lebowski Cunning Linguist

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    Maybe I missed something but why would Werdum being afraid of Jones even enter any conversation?

    I think Werdum would be a bad, bad matchup for Jones. Werdum's standup is no joke and his ground game needs no introduction.
     
  3. MexicanPride

    MexicanPride Blue Belt

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    Lol, Jones is ten times the fighter Werdum is. Destruction.
     
  5. Double Leg

    Double Leg Brown Belt

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    Neither will knock each other out standing or want or be able to take each other down. Jones by UD in a kickboxing match.
     
  6. God_Emperor_Of_Mankind

    God_Emperor_Of_Mankind Let's Palaver! Platinum Member

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    Lol. Werdum had a magical guard does he.
    A lot of fighters take down and GNP black belts.

    Even hunt spent time in werdum's guard.

    Bigfoot is a black belt, look at what Cain did to him on the ground.

    Look at mir being destroyed on his back so many times.

    If you can defend like Jones knows how to there's no threat.
    Werdum will get slaughtered.
     
  7. JayElectra

    JayElectra Paper Belt Banned

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    I'd heavily favour Jones.
     
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    BdK35 White Belt

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    Jones wins fairly easy i'd think.
     
  9. screaminleeman

    screaminleeman Red Belt

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    Jones kills Fabracio at LHW. Fabracio submits JBJ at HW. What is your point?

    Make a 220 catch weight fight and it may be interesting! I adore how Sherdogers see zero challenge in a LHW vs a HW and piss a tsunami at the suggestion of the 265 limit being lifted on the HW division as "unfair" for the lighter HW's "See Brock vs. Randy arguments".

    One way or the other folks, you can't have it both ways.

    Weightclasses exist as weight IS the major factor in dividing fighters within their sex. You CANNOT diminish the advantage of 20+ pounds weight difference. That is what you would have at the current UFC HW division.

    Meet in the middle at 220 FFS. It is still "technically" still HW and would make Fabracio cut weight equal to that which JBJ must gain.

    Fabracio says he is cool with a catchweight contest against Bones. Lets play fair girls!
     
  10. JWtheKarateKid

    JWtheKarateKid Orange Belt

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    i see did you just leave his bedroom?
     
  11. MaTaLa

    MaTaLa #ConorFold Double Yellow Card

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    Jones is a legitimate threat to any mma fighter.
     
  12. Uncommon Valor

    Uncommon Valor Super Fly

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    The only chance Werdum has is a fluke submission.
     
  13. JayElectra

    JayElectra Paper Belt Banned

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    Werdum is not Bigfoot or Mir. I think Jones wins clearly, but I'd only envision him going into Werdum's guard and trying to mount meaningful offense if Werdum is beat up and tired. It's simply not worth the risk when he is clearly the better striker and wrestler.
     
  14. MilesAbove

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    Lol... people are insane. Werdum via whatever he wants.

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  15. JayElectra

    JayElectra Paper Belt Banned

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    The Werdum who just fought Hunt weighs 10-15 pounds more than Jones at most and Jones holds just about every physical advantage in terms of speed, strength and length.
     
  16. JayElectra

    JayElectra Paper Belt Banned

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    Well, if they ever fight, you'll have money to make. Werdum would be at least a 2 to 1 underdog, probably more.
     
  17. MilesAbove

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    God I would hope so.

    Remember when people thought Wandy was a threat to Crocop?

    (also in case you missed the sarcasm, Cormier was +155. Werdum would not be a 2-dog)
     
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    I can't even put in words how stupid calling a submission by Werdum a "fluke" is.
     
  19. Th3Sav4ge

    Th3Sav4ge "What the fuck is happening!?"

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    Jones wins this fight.

    DC beats werdum at heavy
     
  20. JayElectra

    JayElectra Paper Belt Banned

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    Cormier would probably be favoured over Werdum. Where are people getting the idea that Werdum is some destroyer? I mean, he's a very good fighter with some of the best BJJ in the sport, but he is getting old and his striking, while good enough to beat someone with little to no fundamental base or gas tank like Browne after weathering a 1st round storm, is hardly elite. I don't think I have to go through the differences in the fighters and style matchup between Wandy/Cro Cop and Jones/Werdum. Jones is simply better than Wandy ever was and a somewhat prime Cro Cop was a far better striker than Werdum. If it was Jones against a prime Cro Cop, my opinion would be different because Cro Cop matches up with Jones better than Werdum does.
     

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