Do elite jews really want to destroy America or is this just bs?

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  1. Zazen

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    Lately I've been watching a lot of videos about this conspiracy and I do find it fascinating. Jews really do own so much of American media that it would be easy for them to manipulate it to create narratives that divide our country further and further.

    However, I really don't understand why they would want to do such a thing. Is there an end game for Zionists? How many of you guys actually believe this stuff?
     
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    no, they need us. everyone needs us.
     
  3. ripskater

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    I don't think all the elites are jews.
     
  4. Pwent

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    It is fact that jewish people control the media, hollywood, the banks and are overwhelmingly overrepresented in government and academia

    the question is if you think they are conspiring together to do malicious things

    i for one think its interesting that elite jews in the media and hollywood change their names to non-jewish names
     
  5. Undying Poster

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    You should look up the issues individually and outside of poorly made Youtube videos to find out the truth. Make no doubt about it, Jews have a disproportionate impact on our society but that is because they are disproportionately well educated and wealthy. The same way European descent people make a disproportionate impact on the world despite being a minority worldwide. Most Jewish conspiracies are made by White guys who have to explain away the shortcomings of White people, you can frame these questions from a Black POV and targeting Whitey and see how silly it is. I mean, do you even know what Zionist means? It just means that you believe Israel should have a homeland. If you believe Israel has a right to exist, YOU are a Zionist. But now it has become a bad word for Jewish people with lots of power. If I read people talking about Jewish conspiracies and they refer to them as "Zionist Jews" I already know they know little about Jewish people outside of shoddy websites and Youtube videos.

    On issues like Jews and Finance, they are definitely over represented but that's largely because they had literally hundreds of years of a head start on White, Christian, Europeans, because of their views on usury. Expecting a fair or even representation in that field is like expecting Africans who are just generations away removed from a mudhut to have a thriving society with European standards of living. Plus, these conspiracy theories target European Jews almost exclusively. Where do Middle Eastern and Ethiopian Jews fit in? Well they don't have that history of business and education that European Jews had so they weren't able to make such an impact.

    Yeah they were heavily represented in Communism and Socialism but those specific Jews were Atheist Jews and Communist regimes persecuted Jews, I'm not sure how non-practicing Jews who worked alongside non-Jewish ideologues makes it a Jewish conspiracy... They were just ideologues, like the many non-Jewish communists.

    On the Israel lobby, again, they do have a disproportionate effect but 1) What they do is not unique, they're just arguably the best at it, that is, forming special interest groups and 2) It is only made possible by retarded bible thumping Christians who prefer Israel to America... Even if it was a Jewish conspiracy, we deserve to be taken advantage of for having so many stupid fucking bible thumping, Israel first morons in our society.

    Statistics can be frightening without context, you living in Philly, I'm sure you know tons of Black males from there are represented in some negative statistics and surely that is proof that our society is racist and hates Black people, right?

    I'm not completely discounting anything because I can't read minds and don't know any of these influential Jews but I think it is almost certainly horse shit.
     
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    They want to maintain their position at the top, and pretty much have to do anything to achieve that. Now naturally everyone wants to be at the top, so there in lies the conflict.
     
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    What is the point of this? Most people dont really believe aliens help jews or they are really lizard people underneath their skin.
     
  8. dissolved

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    1. What is it, 14 million to 20 million Jews worldwide and 8 million live in Israel?

    No, I don't believe they are behind some plan to genocide the planet or the US.

    I'd be much more concerned with this:

    http://www.clarionproject.org/Muslim_Brotherhood_Explanatory_Memorandum

    "The following is the official document from a 1991 meeting which outlines the Muslim Brotherhood's strategic goals for North America. The document was entered as evidence in the 2008 Holyland Terror Funding Trial. Federal investigators found the document in the home of Ismael Elbarasse, a founder of the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia, during a 2004 search. Elbarasse was a member of the Palestine Committee, which the Muslim Brotherhood had created to support Hamas in the United States."

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    "We have highlighted in yellow the following quotes which are of particular significance. The page numbers noted below correspond to the page numbers in the center of the bottom of each page in the document).

    Page 4:

    “Enablement of Islam in North America, meaning: establishing an effective and a stable Islamic Movement led by the Muslim Brotherhood which adopts Muslims’ causes domestically and globally, and which works to expand the observant Muslim base, aims at unifying and directing Muslims’ efforts, presents Islam as a civilization alternative, and supports the global Islamic State wherever it is.”

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    "...the Movement must plan and struggle to obtain "the keys" and the tools of this process in carry out [sic] this grand mission as a 'Civilization Jihadist' responsibility."

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    “The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers…”

    “[W]e must possess a mastery of the art of ‘coalitions’, the art of ‘absorption’ and the principles of ‘cooperation.’”

    Page 18:

    “A list of our organizations and the organizations of our friends” - This is where the Muslim Brotherhood listed its front groups in the U.S.. Note that prominent organizations like CAIR, ISNA, ICNA and others are named here.

    The page numbers above correspond to the page numbers in the center of the bottom of each page in the document.
     
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    I attribute it to them being intelligent and having high energy. Jews are generally high energy people.
     
  10. clmetal

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    They like the US. Many seem to hate europe but europe doesn't seem to like them much either.

    But the diversity for thee and not for me bit and the white privlege narrative (when we are bigots for pointing out that they have more disproportionate power and wealth than anyone) is pretty hypocritical.
     
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    Most, though?
     
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    Of course, it's important to know that not all these actors pushing this agenda are Jewish. It's not exclusive to Judaism, but it is exclusive to Globalism. Also, not all Jews are pushing this agenda!

    John Kerry is John Kohn, for example. Jon Stewart isn't really John Stewart.

    48% of U.S. Billionaires are Jewish, though they comprise 2% of the population.
    http://www.jta.org/2015/03/02/news-...naires-list-features-new-and-old-jewish-faces

    Immigration act of 1965 to replace European American immigration with 3rd world immigration was pushed by a Jew. Around 50% Jews in the U.S. were slave owners, but only 1.4% of white men.

    The obvious media propaganda is certainly bizarre, especially since it was the same thing that happened in Germany especially with their over-representation. Watching Soros and his Marxist strategies is also interesting, considering this is where the dissolution of nations is coming from. Zuckerberg's interest in censorship is also making me raise my eyebrows. I don't know what it was like being in Germany before the rise of the national socialists, but regarding Islam and the Jewish actors pushing open borders, I certainly feel the words of Goebbels here. Our Patience has it's Limits!


     
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    No. Simply put the people at the top of the conspiracy aren't going to be devout religious people. Power and money are their God.
     
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    This, let alone that *jews* are not even an ethnic race. People always equate jews with being Israeli, which is not the case at all. Being a jew or being jewish is to practice Judaism. Being Israeli, is to be ethnic in origin drawing back to Jacob, Abraham, and the Davidonic lineage...

    The *jews* that are *elite* are less likely to be ethnic Israeli's and more predisposed to be whatever multi ethnic make up they come from.
     
  16. Limbo Pete

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    Those rascally jews always trying to rule the world
     
  17. Blackened

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    This isn't quite true. For example, in Israel they allow "atheist Jews" to migrate, because "a Jew that has sinned is still a Jew".

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-genetics-expert-1.428664

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews
     
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    I don't think Jewish people "try" to rule the world. I think it's a product of their high IQ (which allows them to attain positions of power) and the tribalist nature of a Jewish person with power to appoint another Jewish person for a high position.
     
  19. Cuauhtemoc

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    It's usually implied they're ethnic jews, usually secular. Many times from the so called "reform judaism". Nobody believes the haredim are trying to influence anything.

    About the topic I don't think so, but most jews favor Israel or other jews first instead of the country they live in. So yeah, I wouldn't vote for a jew as I'm not one.
    That is just natural though, let's say I was magically elected to be a politician in Japan. I'd probably favor Brazil over japanese interests even if I'd still support japanese interests over any other country.

    If you talk about the US, most other groups consider themselves to be american first, but not all of them. Most irish-americans are americans first. Most black americans are american first. But some groups like chinese-americans, japanese-americans, muslim-americans, jewish-americans...eh, I'd be more skeptical. Especially because these groups have diverging interests.
    A christian first american like Mike Pence, will almost always support the US, except if Jesus showed up and said him not to because the USA is mostly Christian. A chinese, muslim or jew will have a serious conflict about supporting some US policies and may act as a fifth column.

    Or just listen to the man himself:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg
     
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    I don't think we can talk about this here without getting shoahed by mods
     

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